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Topic: John Routledge, Worcester (Read 566 times)
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routers
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Hello.
I am looking for details about a John Routledge. He appears on the 1901 census living in Grimsby, married to Edith (nee Crowley) and working as a boiler maker. The census states that John was born in late 1850s in Worcester. However we have found no record of any John Routledge born in Worcester around this time. We do know that he married Edith in Hull in 1894 and that his father according to marriage certificate was called William and was also a boiler maker. I wonder if any body has any information about John, particularly before his marriage.
Many thanks
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CaroleW
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Hi
How old was he on his marriage cert
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tough one - no BMD entry ...
also strange, theres a chap same name and spelling, same occupation, same PoB, married in 1891 - BUT 10 years younger .
1891 - RG12/3176; Folio 79; Page 40 - Gorton, Lancs
John Routledge 21 Head Boiler Maker Worcester
Elizth Routledge 20 Wife Manchester
Added: he's a lad with parents Barnard (BoilerMaker) & Sarah in 1881, still in Gorton, still PoB Worcs ... on the back burner for now then.
Whoops - on the 1901 as well .....
Routledge seems to be a more Northern surname ?
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routers
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He was 34 on marriage certificate.
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CaroleW
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Hi
That 1891 entry is the John Routledge - father Barnard - living in Gorton in 1881 but still VERY coincidental (I wondered myself)
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routers
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We have had a look at the John you mention. However his father was called Barnard/Bernard. Cannot find a connection with a William. We have found a family who lived in Dudley, Tipton, Handsworth area (in mid to late 1800s) which seems to known as Staffordshire in 19 century who had a John of the right age and a father called William who was a boiler maker. However not Worcester, although I have found info that suggests that Dudley was known as Worcestershire at some stage in the past. However cannot directly link this family if they are the correct ones.
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jim1212
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The only one I can see in 1881 with a father William boiler maker is this one,
William RUTLEDGE. Head. M. 54. Carlie. PLater (Boiler).
Mary RUTLEDGE. Wife. M. 52. West Bromwich, Stafford,
Charles RUTLEDGE. Son. U. 24. Tipton. General Labourer.
John RUTLEDGE. Son. U. 20. Tipton. General Labourer.
Harry RUTLEDGE. Son. U. 16. Tipton. General Labourer.
Robert RUTLEDGE. Son. U. 11. Tipton. Scholar.
Sarah RUTLEDGE. Daur. U. 19. Tipton. Dress Maker.
Ellen RUTLEDGE. Daur. U. 5 . Tipton. Dress Maker.
Elizth RUTLEDGE. Daur. U. 9. Tipton. Scholar.
Living at,New Rd No 45. Tipton, Stafford,
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thats on one of the other 3 or more threads open for this search .... 
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routers
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Thank you to Jorose and GeoffE on the General thread and jm1212 on Worcestershire thread. We have come across this family a number of times and did wonder if they are the family of the John I am researching. We had also found the Harry on the 1901 census also living in Grimsby as a boiler maker. On the marriage certificate of John and Edith the witnesses were a Harry Routledge and an Alice Biglin. However we have been unable to trace this Tipton/Rowley Regis family in 1891 and also cannot trace our John Routledge in 1891 either. Can anyone link them or find any other lead for John.
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Georgfriedrich
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I'm not sure whether this of any help but there is a William Routledge baptised at St Mary's Carlisle on the 3rd of December 1826, son of James and Sarah.
Carlie is perhaps Carlisle?
Looking under Rutledge I see:
In the 1871 census it appears that this family are living in Rowley Regis in Staffs.
William is a boiler maker and it just says Mrs Rutledge instead of Mary. All the children are listed including your John. But they all say they were born in Handworth.
In 1861 I see them in Handsworth and they say that they were all born there too. The eldest son is James - another possible link.
In 1851 they are in Booth Street Handsworth but this time William says that he was born in Carlisle. He says that he is 23 and I therefore presume that that IGI entry is correct.
I can't find them William in 1841
I also see that Handsworth is in the registration district of West Bromwich.
In 1848 in the BMD there is William Rutledge m Mary Lee in the district of West Bromwich and in the 1851 census William Mary and have lodgers called Charles (29) and Eliza Lee. Charles is a pearl button maker and William is boiler maker
I hope this helps. 
I get so much help on Rootschat that I feel pretty good that I found this information to help someone else so I hope it is right!!!
Kirk
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London/Greater London: Owen, Ford, Barber, Plank and . . . Smith.
Essex: Robjant, Brown (!)
Yorkshire: Fallowfield, Snarr, Wood, Dunn, Heron, Bean, Wright
Leics. : Flude, Smalley, Caris,
Northants: Flude
Lincs: Gibson, Hall (Grantham)
Staffs : Owen, Browne
Notts: Owen
Salop: Carver, Tristram
Kent: Reed, Gardiner, Vant, Ford
Wales:
Pembroke : Rees, Llewelyn
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Routledge seems to be a more Northern surname ?
The surname Routledge takes its ancient origins from two words, rudd leche meaning red stream. There are countless variations in the early spelling of Rutledge, the earliest recorded have a Norman flavour and include De Routluge. From the middle ages onwards Routledge becomes the main spelling and it still exists in this form today. In the 15th Century the Routledges are found across the debatable land, a lawless enclave on the English Scots border. Their earliest home is said to have been on the Bailey waters near Bewcastle in the southern debatable lands. On a present day map "Routledge Burn" ( Burn meaning stream, perhaps this is the red stream the name comes from ! ) appears in the Kershope forest less than 1 mile south of the current Scots border which is marked by Liddle water.
General Dacre the warden of the West March is said to have assembled a force of over 500 men to destroy the Routledges. They managed to escape north of the border with most of their possessions and relocated around the Tarras Burn. When the 2 crowns of England and Scotland united under one kingdom the reiver families of the border region suffered great hardship, no longer able to escape into a foreign land and exploit the many loopholes they had used for generations.
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Living in Berkshire. From Northampton & Milton Keynes DETAILS OF THE FOLLOWING NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley. Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse Census Info is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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