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'Tricia
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Edith Gent Bowskill
Notts census 1861 Piece 2441 Folio 60
« on: Monday 07 February 05 15:57 UTC (UK) »
Family recorded here are:-

Samuel Gent age 36  Cotton glove maker
Ruth age 45 seamtress
Mary 14 seamtress
William age 10
George 4
John ? 21 son in law (actually stepson)  school teacher

Could someone with 1861 Notts census please check this for me and give an opinion on John's surname?

I would be most grateful - my eyes are spinning Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Many, many thanks in advance, Tricia Cheesy
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
Steve Ley
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Re: Notts census 1861 Piece 2441 Folio 60
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 February 05 17:11 UTC (UK) »
Hi Trisha, I've had a look and this is what i think it looks like  EULVELEY.
The index for the 1861 has it down as ENVELEY.

Neither of these names are in the 1881 surname atlas.

I'll check my other indexes later this evening.


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Re: Notts census 1861 Piece 2441 Folio 60
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 February 05 18:44 UTC (UK) »
I have looked in the indexes for 1841, 51, 71 and 1891 and could not find Enlveley or Eulveley.


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Edith Gent Bowskill
Re: Notts census 1861 Piece 2441 Folio 60
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 February 05 18:54 UTC (UK) »
Steve,

Before you do that this name was given to me before I had personal access to 1861 as Everly(Everley)  and I was also given information that George Gent married Ruth Everly in Bulwell 25/12 1844 by the same person.

On looking at the image it looks longer than Everly but we all know what happens on the census. Could you possibly confirm in anyway that this is,indeed, Everly. I haven't managed to find Ruth Everly's birth - but she may even have been married previously - she's so much older than George.

The only John Everly I can see on 1871 is 39 and a glove maker not a school teacher and married to Margaret. She is Head  by 1881 but recorded as married but I don't know if he's my chap or not.

Did they round the ages up and/or down at all in 1861??

Sorry to drone on - don't worry too much,

Thanks, Tricia
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Edith Gent Bowskill
Re: Notts census 1861 Piece 2441 Folio 60
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 February 05 18:56 UTC (UK) »
oh, heck,
We posted at the same time - wanted to stop you going on a wild goose chase.

Sorry, Tricia
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: Notts census 1861 Piece 2441 Folio 60
« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 February 05 19:03 UTC (UK) »
Only the 1841 rounded ages down.

Will check know to see if i confirm he is a Everly.

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Re: Notts census 1861 Piece 2441 Folio 60
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 February 05 19:51 UTC (UK) »
I checked the 1871 and found 3 John's, The one you mentioned and one aged 1yrs and one aged 54yrs.

Here are some marriage from the NFHS marriages transcripts;

Record  MSURNAME  MFIRSTNAME   FSURNAME      FFIRSTNAME  PLACE        DATE 
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200104  EVERLEY   John         PLACKETT      Sarah       BEE    12/07/1839 
240992  EVERLEY   John         WOODWARD      Susannah    BUW    22/02/1860 
245722  EVERLEY   John         MORRIS        Hannah      BUW    22/06/1862 
260936  EVERLEY   John         BROCKLEHURST  Margaret    BUW    06/07/1869 
318445  EVERLEY   John Thomas  PHILLIPS      Elizabeth   GRE    23/01/1892 


And some Burials from the NFHS burial transcripts;

Record  ABR  SURNAME  FIRSTNAME          DATE  AGE  ABODE       BURIAL   NOTES     
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104627  SKG  EVERLEY  John Thomas  22/04/1881  1+   Meden Bank  Skegby   1 1/2yrs 
167511  BUW  EVERLEY  John         23/04/1875  43   Bulwell     Bulwell           
171512  BUW  EVERLEY  John         02/03/1881  41   Bulwell     Bulwell     



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Edith Gent Bowskill
Re: Notts census 1861 Piece 2441 Folio 60
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 February 05 19:55 UTC (UK) »
Thanks, Steve

I could sent for his birth cert and then that marriage cert with Margaret and if the father's are the same he's the right guy and if father is left blank then they're the same guy.

Hey Ho, Tricia - a Nottinghamshire lass  Wink
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: Notts census 1861 Piece 2441 Folio 60
« Reply #8 on: Monday 07 February 05 20:04 UTC (UK) »
I don't know if you have this from the 1851;

2127  523

George Gent  H  36
Ruth     Gent  W  31
Mary     Gent  D    4 (?)
John Everley  S    11

Have the image if you would like it but it is very feint.


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Re: Notts census 1861 Piece 2441 Folio 60
« Reply #9 on: Monday 07 February 05 20:14 UTC (UK) »
From the NFHS 1841 census transcript;

This is all the Everley/Everly


2-40   856  EVERLEY  Joseph     45      Reads Yd  Cotton FWK  BULWELL  BUW  Y  1     127262 
2-40   856  EVERLEY  Hannah         40  Reads Yd              BULWELL  BUW  Y        127263 
2-40   856  EVERLEY  Mary           10  Reads Yd              BULWELL  BUW  Y        127264 
2-40   856  EVERLEY  John       9       Reads Yd              BULWELL  BUW  Y        127265 
2-40   856  EVERLEY  Martha         6   Reads Yd              BULWELL  BUW  Y        127266 
2-40   856  EVERLEY  Jemmima        4   Reads Yd              BULWELL  BUW  Y        127267 
2-40   856  EVERLEY  Ann            3m  Reads Yd              BULWELL  BUW  Y        127268 


1-22   856  EVERLY   Hannah        85  Church St  Spinster        BULWELL  BUW  Y  1     126689 
1-22   856  EVERLY   Sarah         40  Church St  Cotton Spinner  BULWELL  BUW  Y        126690


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Re: Notts census 1861 Piece 2441 Folio 60
« Reply #10 on: Monday 07 February 05 20:19 UTC (UK) »
From the NFHS burials transcripts;


Record  ABR  SURNAME  FIRSTNAME        DATE  AGE  ABODE     BURIAL        NOTES 
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31233  ATT  EVERLY   Harold     29/10/1895  3m   Chilwell  Attenborough       



Record  ABR  SURNAME  FIRSTNAME          DATE  AGE  ABODE       BURIAL              NOTES     
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104627  SKG  EVERLEY  John Thomas  22/04/1881  1+   Meden Bank  Skegby              1 1/2yrs 
104732  SKG  EVERLEY  Lily         18/09/1883  5m   Meden Bank  Skegby                       
151465  BUW  EVERLEY  William      04/02/1838  1    Bulwell     Bulwell                       
152271  BUW  EVERLEY  Wm           23/09/1838  6    Bulwell     Bulwell                       
165735  BUW  EVERLEY  Hannah       14/03/1860  59   Bulwell     Bulwell                       
165869  BUW  EVERLEY  Henry        18/08/1861  Inf  Bulwell     Bulwell                       
166094  BUW  EVERLEY  Martha       23/03/1864  Inf  Bulwell     Bulwell                       
166204  BUW  EVERLEY  Harriet      06/07/1865  7w   Bulwell     Bulwell                       
166307  BUW  EVERLEY  Joseph       21/10/1866  70   Bulwell     Bulwell                       
166392  BUW  EVERLEY  Martha       05/01/1868  Inf  Bulwell     Bulwell                       
166403  BUW  EVERLEY  Hannah       23/02/1868  29   Bulwell     Bulwell                       
166453  BUW  EVERLEY  Susanna      11/09/1868  35   Bulwell     Bulwell                       
166722  BUW  EVERLEY  Joseph       30/08/1870  5m   Bulwell     Bulwell                       
167148  BUW  EVERLEY  Eunice       10/03/1873  1    Bulwell     Bulwell                       
167511  BUW  EVERLEY  John         23/04/1875  43   Bulwell     Bulwell                       
169092  N-M  EVERLEY  Eliza        17/07/1858  22   Workhouse   Nottingham St Mary           
171512  BUW  EVERLEY  John         02/03/1881  41   Bulwell     Bulwell                       
174549  BUW  EVERLEY  Margaret     10/10/1882  45   Bulwell     Bulwell                       
176532  BUW  EVERLEY  Mary         31/03/1888  69   Bulwell     Bulwell                       

I was wondering if John's father may be here.


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Edith Gent Bowskill
Re: Notts census 1861 Piece 2441 Folio 60
« Reply #11 on: Monday 07 February 05 20:44 UTC (UK) »
Brilliant, Steve.   Grin Grin

I didn't have the 1851 census. Very interesting because,apart from verifying Everley as the surname, Ruth and George are now a lot closer in age. Looks  even more as though he may have been illegitimate. I'll send for the birth certificate.

As George has re-married by 1871 and also died, leaving 2nd wife looking after his children and one of their own, I assumed she kicked the bucket cos she was a lot older. And, I always tell other people not to make assumptions.

Go, on tell me the ages are rounded down!

I'll leave you in peace, now Kiss
Tricia
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: Notts census 1861 Piece 2441 Folio 60
« Reply #12 on: Monday 07 February 05 21:11 UTC (UK) »
Glad to be of help  Smiley


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UNWIN (Staffordshire,Derbyshire)
FRANCES/FRANCIS (Norfolk)
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Re: Notts census 1861 Piece 2441 Folio 60
« Reply #13 on: Monday 07 February 05 21:30 UTC (UK) »
Hi Tricia, Tinkerbell is also searching for Gent in Nottinghamshire, If you search the threads, she has posted a topic today and should get in touch.

I've posted this message on her thread as well.


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WISEMAN (Cambridge)
UNWIN (Staffordshire,Derbyshire)
FRANCES/FRANCIS (Norfolk)
And BELL, McKENZIE and GRAY in Scotland.
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