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Topic: Lewes Lookup Pls? - John Delves (Read 435 times)
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Deb D
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If anyone is able to visit Lewes, and has the time, please would they be able to look around the parish records for the birth of a John Delves, around 1818-19? He was listed as 21 when he arrived in Australia on the "James Pattison" in early 1840.
There's been some confusion about what the ship's registers actually said in relation to his birthplace ... we've now ascertained the scribbled writing says "Hallenden", but there isn't a Hallenden in close proximity - so we're thinking whoever filled in the forms may have mis-heard either Hollington, or Dallington.
Unfortunately, we are not sure whether he was baptised C of E (the Delves name is associated with a C of E rector in Catsfield, nearby - unsure whether they were related, at this stage), ... or whether John was Wesleyan Methodist, which is the calling he took up later in life.
Any help would be huuuuuuuuugely appreciated - I'm stuck in a groove with this fellow ... and just don't seem to be able to get out!
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I live in Sydney, Australia, and I'm researching: - Powell Tatham Dunbar Dixon Mackwood Kinnear Mitchell Morgan Delves Anderson
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sharon r
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Hi Deb, I read your post only recently and was excited to find someone else who was looking for John Delves born 1819 in Sussex and was also having touble finding him. My dad told me that the family farmed around the Battle/Hasting district so I moved my search to that area. I found a John Delves baptised 28 MAr 1819 in Wartling East Sussex (in the Rape of Hastings). His parents names - John and Mary fit with the names I had. Also his fathers occupation was listed as a 'labourer in husbandry. As John later farmed and ran dairy cows in the Manning district in Taree I think his father occupation fits well. I also found five siblings whose names are also the names of John Delves's children. What do you think?
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kerryb
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Hi Deb
I had a look on the SFHG baptism database for you and the Wartling baptism is the only one that comes up between 1815 and 1825. I think they have most parishes on the database now so could well be the right one.
Kerry
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSearching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website .... www.kerrysfamilyhistory.co.uk
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sharon r
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Hi Deb, The brothers and sisters of John Delves (baptised 28 Mar 1819 at St Mary Magdalene Wartling) are Elizabeth Baptised 11 Nov 1804 Louisa Bap 21 Dec 1806 Harry Bap 17 Sep 1809 Mary Ann 9 Jul 1815 Jane Bap 28 May 1822
Have you checked out the Non conformist Registers for Worthing yet? I am still a bit hung up on the fact that all of my family records state that he was born in Worthing Sussex. I was looking at an article from 'The Methodist' -'In Memoriam- Mr. John Delves' and I quote ' JohnDelves was born at Worthing in Sussex England January 21st 1819, came to Sydeny in 1838,settling there for one year, being in the employ of Messers. Lamb and Co. I have been looking at records in the Worthing area for the last 20 years and still haven't found what should be obvious given that I have so many references to his birth date and place
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Deb D
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Hi again, Sharon!
Yes, my husband's cousin sent me a copy of the "Methodist" article, a couple of years back ... and it's bugged me, too, ever since. I don't believe I've found the non-conformist registers yet, ... but very appreciative of the names etc., of his siblings - thank you! Where did you find them? 
I wonder whether there were 'naming traditions' in this part of the country, as there were in Scotland and Wales? Could we figure out the names of our John's grandparents from the names of his older siblings, do you think?
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I live in Sydney, Australia, and I'm researching: - Powell Tatham Dunbar Dixon Mackwood Kinnear Mitchell Morgan Delves Anderson
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sillgen
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Over 200 results for "Delves" on the A2A site for East Sussex record office. May be worth ploughing through them. For example "On 4 May 1761 Samuel Harrison and his wife Elizabeth mortgaged to John Pain of Hastings servant for £30, who died a bachelor intestate 28 May 1803 leaving sisters Sarah Hide and Martha Lidwell; administration was granted to the former 18 July 1803 and on her death regranted to her son Thomas Hide 25 July 1817 By lease and release of 29 & 30 Sep 1817 and fine, Nicholas Harrison Wimble of Hastings carpenter, his sisters Ann wife of John Luxford of Reigate labourer, Maria wife of Thomas Delves of Wartling husbandman and Elizabeth West of Welford Northants widow (nephew and neices and devisees of Nicholas Harrison deceased) joined with Elizabeth Bevan widow, administratrix with will annexed of the goods of Edward Lintott left on the death of her father William Lintott) and Thomas Hide carpenter (the representatives of the two mortgagees) to convey the property to William Gill of Hastings banker in trust for NHW and to assign the two mortgage terms to William Thorpe and William Scrivens of Hastings gents as trustees"
That may put paid to my theory about Maria and Henry in my earlier post! Andrea
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