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kerryb
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Hi
Going through my Sussex Marriage Index trying to find some of the unknown marriages and one of them is of a John Harmer of Heathfield and Elizabeth around 1701. His first son Richard was baptised 1703.
On the SMI I found a possible marriage licence dated 20 April 1702 to an Elizabeth Bissenden but in the notes box for John it says de Effell in Sussex. The only name anything like that, that I have heard of is Heffle Court in Heathfield.
So was Heffle a place and could de Effell be Heffle?
Kerry
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Jamaine
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Hi Kerry,
I am fairly sure that Heffle is the local pronunciation of Heathfield in ye olde Sussex dialect.
Also Kipling wrote about the Heffle (Heathfield) Cuckoo Fair?
John
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kerryb
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Hi John
I think it must apply to Heathfield and I'm going with that.
I didn't know that Kipling wrote about the Heffle Cuckoo Fair, I shall have to look that up. Was it a particular book?
Kerry
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kerryb
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Thanks Jamaine
I know more of his books than poetry but that is a good one
Kerry
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Stovepipe
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I've been reading an old book in which a custom performed on Cuckoo Day (April 14th) is described. The custom is "an old woman takes the cuckoo in her basket to Hefful Fair, and there turns it out." The book notes that Heathfield Fair is held on April 14th, and Hefful is glossed "Heathfield".
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kerryb
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Thanks for that Stovepipe. I think that confirms it for me then!
Kerry 
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kerryb
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Sean
 Perhaps I should read it again. Well that confirms it! Thank you.
Kerry
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coppardchick
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Hi Kerry,
Dont know whether you are still interested in Heffle and Harmer, or whether this information will be relevant. I live in Old Heathfield and can tell you that the Heffle Cuckoo Fayre is taking place tomorrow (Saturday 25th April) and is being relocated to its original site in Cade Street which is next to Old Heathfield. The local church at Old Heathfield, All Saints and St Richards has Harmer gravestones and Harmer who was a famous stonemason is from Old Heathfield. the Harmer family have a website which is www.harmer.org and if you go to www.villagenet.co.uk and search for Heffle, this will tell you about that.
Hope this helps, if not sorry!
Regards
Sharon
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kerryb
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Thanks Sharon and welcome to Rootschat. Funnily enough I read a report in the local paper tonight at my parents and my mum who was born at Punnetts Town commented that the fair had relocated back to Cade Street.
I am a member of the Harmer Family Association who have been really helpful with the family tree and I have been collecting Harmer terracottas at local graveyards. In fact I managed to get a photo this morning of one at Warbleton which I had not noticed on previous visits there.
Kerry
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