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Topic: Another local expression - do you have a variant? (Read 6938 times)
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suzard
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for Gordon Bennett info
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/gordon-bennett.html
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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suzard
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Olly,
Another word for gym shoes = "daps"
Having moved to South Wales -and my son tarting school there -he arrived home stating he had to have a "dap bag"
I had no idea what this could be -so asked one or two other mothers what did they use a dap bag for -was told "to keep daps in""
When asked what "daps were" I was told "you know DAPS"!!!!
no wiser I enquired where to purchase one - and was told "we usually make them"
It was a couple of weeks before I realised he wanted a PE bag to keep his gym shoes in!!!
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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IgorStrav
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Arthur Pay 1915-2002 "handsome bu**er"
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That's reminded me of the words you used when you wanted to step out of a game for a moment
We used to say "Vainites" or "Vains", which meant that whoever was chasing you (or whatever) had to stop for a moment.
I think there are lots of local variants aren't there? Does anyone remember theirs?
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Pay, Kent. Barham, Kent. Cork(e), Kent. Cooley, Kent. Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich. Cotterill, Derbys. Van Steenhoven, Belgium/East London. Burton, East London. Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
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IgorStrav
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Arthur Pay 1915-2002 "handsome bu**er"
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Yes, I remember bagseying the desks next to the radiator at school 
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Pay, Kent. Barham, Kent. Cork(e), Kent. Cooley, Kent. Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich. Cotterill, Derbys. Van Steenhoven, Belgium/East London. Burton, East London. Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
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NadT
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Yes, when I was kid we used to bagsey things, my children still do now! My dad tells me up north in Newcastle they were 'cruse' to keep them safe when playing a game of tag etc. I remember we were always 'cree' when we were in Cardiff. Don't know why or where it came from. You just couldn't be caught if you were cree.
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Durham/Newcastle: Richardson, Glendenning/Glendinning, Postle, Carr, Tatters
Norfolk/Suffolk: Love, Sharman
Somerset/Glamorgan, Wales: Brooks, Elliott, Smith
Cumberland; Richardson, Gribbin, Butler, Tatters
Shropshire/Welshpool: Thomas, Bradshaw, Summers, Weatherby, Phillips
Scotland: Baxter, Service, McMaster
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Abiam
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It's that time of year again!
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What did we say Feynies sic. for? Can't remember!
No-one has picked up on 'That's life in a blue suit' where does it come from ant ideas?
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Genealogists never die! They just undertake to join their ancestors!
DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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IgorStrav
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Arthur Pay 1915-2002 "handsome bu**er"
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Vains, or Vainites was when, for example, you'd tripped up and hurt your knee in a chasing game, and you were telling your pursuer you weren't in the game for a moment. I've heard it as Fains from elsewhere.
As for Life in a Blue Suit, well, that's the first time I've heard that one! Probably from the Navy as you say. What did it mean..............well, there you go?
Also, another one, when there was something particularly dramatic or melodramatic on the tv, my Mum used to say "kee, bly". Anyone else heard of that? I think it was a refined version of cor bl.imey, but was reserved only for melodramatic moments.
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Pay, Kent. Barham, Kent. Cork(e), Kent. Cooley, Kent. Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich. Cotterill, Derbys. Van Steenhoven, Belgium/East London. Burton, East London. Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
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johnnyboy
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Hi all: Having spoken it all my life, I thought I knew my English...until I read this thread. Go figure, as they say while schlepping around New York.
I did look up "tad" (meaning "small amount") at the Oxford English Dictionary Online. The first written citation comes from 1940 and was recorded in volume 15 (1940) of American Speech, a scholarly journal. I was able to find the journal online at an academic library. "Tad" is included in a collection of expressions from late 1930s Tennessee.
Considering that the word was first recorded in Tennessee, but its use is being discussed on a website that is located in the U.K. and used in large part by people from the U.K., I think what we have here is an example of the chicken coming home to roost. That is: many of the early settlers of Tennessee were Scotch-Irish (as we call them in the U.S.) and English. When they settled in Tennessee, many of them lived in isolated rural areas, and I think the word is a relic of the early settlers, brought across the Atlantic. The other Oxford English Dictionary definitions of "tad"--such as a small boy--are recorded much earlier, although all of them do originate in the U.S.
I've attached edited images show the beginning of the article and the end of the article, with "tad" and many other Tennessee expressions.
Oh, yes, where I grew up in the U.S. (Pennsylvania) we also described low-temperature days as "Colder than a witch's t*t in a brass br*."
Regards and a Happy 2009 to all,
John 
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ENGLAND, YKS: SLATER of Ovenden and Halifax; DRURY of Darton, Mapplewell, Sheffield and Halifax; DOBSON of Thornton (near Bradford); NEVILL(E) of Wigan, Lancs and Darton; MEGSON of Dewsbury; GARSIDE of Woolley and West Bretton. SCOTLAND: HENDRY of Who-knows-where-shire and Massachusetts, USA; HOUSTON of Lesmahagow and Glasgow and Massachusetts, USA; DEMPSTER of Lesmahagow; MEIKLE of Ayrshire, Hamilton, and Glasgow; COCHRAN of Hamilton.
Paradise: EVE and ADAM, also in exile
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IgorStrav
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Arthur Pay 1915-2002 "handsome bu**er"
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They're fantastic John!
I just love "ankled" for walked!
We also have "colder than a witches' t*t" in the UK. My Dad used to say that.
Or Brass Monkeys!
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Pay, Kent. Barham, Kent. Cork(e), Kent. Cooley, Kent. Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich. Cotterill, Derbys. Van Steenhoven, Belgium/East London. Burton, East London. Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
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johnnyboy
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Hi IgorStrav and others: Since you liked "ankle," here are the middle columns of the article I posted above. I'm partial to "crawling dandruff."
John
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ENGLAND, YKS: SLATER of Ovenden and Halifax; DRURY of Darton, Mapplewell, Sheffield and Halifax; DOBSON of Thornton (near Bradford); NEVILL(E) of Wigan, Lancs and Darton; MEGSON of Dewsbury; GARSIDE of Woolley and West Bretton. SCOTLAND: HENDRY of Who-knows-where-shire and Massachusetts, USA; HOUSTON of Lesmahagow and Glasgow and Massachusetts, USA; DEMPSTER of Lesmahagow; MEIKLE of Ayrshire, Hamilton, and Glasgow; COCHRAN of Hamilton.
Paradise: EVE and ADAM, also in exile
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IgorStrav
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Arthur Pay 1915-2002 "handsome bu**er"
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Crawling Dandruff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Pay, Kent. Barham, Kent. Cork(e), Kent. Cooley, Kent. Barwell, Rutland/Northants/Greenwich. Cotterill, Derbys. Van Steenhoven, Belgium/East London. Burton, East London. Wade, Greenwich/Brightlingsea, Essex.
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