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ladybird
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a question re the Workhouse/ House of Industry
« on: Saturday 20 December 08 20:08 UTC (UK) »

I'm still trying the roundabout route to my 3x g grandmother via her sister.
I've received a death cert for an Elizabeth Waters who died in 1840 aged 84 at the House of Industry, decay of nature

I have a possible reference to her husband William in the 1841 census, though I still have to work out the relationship to the people he's living with.....

Wm Waters at Chauntry Place, Coventry, aged 70 (1771) , occupation R weaver
william and mary kimberley both aged 20
mary waters  45
thomas waters 20
samuel waters 15
ebenezer waters 10
samuel turner  25
john copstakes 15
benjamin kimberley 5
All born in country

Looking at her age on  the cert and his age on the census there is quite an age gap...(I believe she was born c1765) but given the 1841 rounding system stil viable maybe, and also possible the Workhouse took a guess at her age.
Oh dear  Huh so many ifs, ands and buts!

Anyway my question please is was the Workhouse/ House of industry also used as a hospital at that time?

Sylvia

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Re: a question re the Workhouse/ House of Industry
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 21 December 08 11:47 UTC (UK) »

Hello Sylvia
Yes you're right,workhouses were (in many instances) the only medical facility available.As time went on a lot of these became exclusively hospitals.
Decay of Nature sounds like Alzheimer's or something similar.
William's relationship looks like father-in-law to Mary Waters.

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Re: a question re the Workhouse/ House of Industry
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 21 December 08 17:03 UTC (UK) »

Hi Sylvia,

You might like to look at this site, lots of information on workhouses and life there:
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?records/records.shtml

Barbara
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Re: a question re the Workhouse/ House of Industry
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 21 December 08 18:59 UTC (UK) »

Thank you folks
There's a definate possiblity there then...if Mary married William and Elizabeth's son and they named their first son after his father and their second son after her father.......... Tongue

....and so it goes on  Wink
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Lanark and Stirling - Jeffrey.
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Warwickshire and London - Garfield.
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other offshoots - Berry, Steven, Craig, Atkins, Fuller, McClure, Todd, McIntyre, Stewart, Conway, Buck, Heather, Winter, Letley, Beaumont, Wilson

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Re: a question re the Workhouse/ House of Industry
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 21 December 08 19:37 UTC (UK) »

Have you found the family in 1851 to see if that helps with any of the relationships?
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Re: a question re the Workhouse/ House of Industry
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 December 08 07:30 UTC (UK) »

This looks like Mary living with her son and daughter-in-law in 1851
Mary Waters 59 
Samuel Waters 35 
Hannah Waters 20 
Hannah Waters 5 
Mary Hands 14, servant 
All born in Coventry, all ribbon weavers.

Doesn't help with relationships to my Waters much though. William must have died between the census and I doubt if his death cert would say who his wife was  Undecided
Thanks for your thoughts folks, something to work on I think
Sylvia
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Scotland (Travellers) - Townsend/Townsley
Lanark and Stirling - Jeffrey.
Northumberland/ Durham - Newton, Patrick, Nixon, Sharp.
Warwickshire and London - Garfield.
Ireland, Co. Kerry - Marah/Meara/Mara

other offshoots - Berry, Steven, Craig, Atkins, Fuller, McClure, Todd, McIntyre, Stewart, Conway, Buck, Heather, Winter, Letley, Beaumont, Wilson

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: a question re the Workhouse/ House of Industry
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 September 09 13:33 UTC (UK) »

My husbands ancestor-in-law Joseph Makepeace was also in the house of Industry in 1841, it seemed to be mainly elderly men and it was used as a hospital in some cases, it now stands next to the Gulson hospital in Coventry, we dont live too far from it.
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Re: a question re the Workhouse/ House of Industry
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 01 September 09 13:34 UTC (UK) »

My husbands ancestor-in-law Joseph Makepeace was also in the house of Industry in 1841, it seemed to be mainly elderly men and it was used as a hospital in some cases, it now stands next to the Gulson hospital in Coventry, we dont live too far from it.
From 1801 the monastery was employed as the Coventry Workhouse. Initially the Coventry authorities ran the "House of Industry" in quite a benevolent manner, giving "out-relief" to poor outside the house as well as work, clothing and food to the poor within. However, the Poor Law act of 1834 tightened up on such "inefficiencies" and a much harsher regime was to ensue. Conditions were extremely undesirable for inmates - even married couples were seperated to ensure they had no more children.

SORRY, posted twice and cant delete the post underneath   Huh
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