|
Pages: [1]
|
 |
|
Author
|
Topic: "Royal Military Chronicle" 1813 [Ensign John Whysall] (Read 276 times)
|
John Whysall
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 80
|
This is a case of casting bread upon the waters, in hope of finding someone, anyone who has passed this way before.
I've just come across a copy of the "Royal Military Chronicle" for May 4th to 8th, 1813. It lists a whole series of promotions and commissions in the Belper Regiment of the Derbyshire Local Militia.
The one that caught my attention was:
- John Whysall, gent. to be [ensign], vice Harrison, promoted.
Now, I'd hoped that my lot were on the other side (the Pentrich Rising, and so on). This does not look good for my radical hopes.
Any thoughts (for example, if not helping me to identify which member of the family went legit., about membership of the militia, the context of 1813) welcome.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
In Derbyshire: Whysall and their distaffs. In Norfolk and Cambs, Piggott/Pigot and their distaffs. In Ulster and SW Scotland, Hendry, Maud and their links. Census information may be Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk. |
|
|
spendlove
RootsChat Veteran
Posts: 508
I've not edited my PROFILE yet
|
Hi John,
This EXTRACT is taken from PRO leaflet on local Militia:-
Research Guides : Research guides
Militia 1757-1914
Military Records Information 18
1. Introduction
The Militia was a voluntary county based part-time force for home defence. It ceased to be summoned after the Civil War (see, Military Records Information 2), but was revived in 1757, when the Militia Act established Militia Regiments in all counties of England and Wales. The Yeomanry (cavalry) and the Volunteers were introduced later. In 1808 a further force, the Local Militia, was formed. By 1816 the Local Militia and the Volunteers had been dissolved. The Volunteer Force was revived in 1859. In 1907, the Yeomanry and the Volunteers combined as the Territorial Force, and in 1908 the Militia was revived as the Special Reserve. For more details on these auxiliary forces, see Military Records Information 72.
2. Militia Conscription, 1758-1831: a kind of census
A form of conscription was used: each year, the parish was supposed to draw up lists of adult males, and to hold a ballot to choose those who had to serve in the militia. The militia lists (of all men) and the militia enrolment lists (of men chosen to serve) should in theory provide complete and annual censuses of all men aged between 18 and 45 from 1758 to 1831. The surviving lists, held locally, can be very informative, giving details about individual men and their family circumstances. However, the coverage of the country, for various reasons, is not complete. For more information see J S Gibson and Medlycott, Militia Lists and Musters, 1757-1876. Records of the militia once formed are also usually in county record offices. Other locally-held sources are the poor law records, which can include orders for the maintenance of children of militia men.
Regarding Whysall in Belper one branch were farmers and malsters, and owned 2 public houses
so if connected to these your radical hopes are down the pan.
Merry Christmas.
Spendlove.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
John Whysall
RootsChat Extra
Posts: 80
|
Thanks, Spendlove, I should have know I could rely on you.
1808, heh? I read that as controlling the domestic population rather than any "Home Guard." Worse and worse.
You are quite correct about the small farmers, maltsters and publicans (spot the vertical marketing). I'm glad to say the publican-and-sinner connection came down to the last generation. All very respectable, except for that delicious spat over ownership of pews in Pentrich, St Matthew, as recorded on the magnificent www.pentrich.org.uk. Fortunately there were deviant younger sons who did exciting things like sentences of transportation, going into mining, crossing the Atlantic ... all the things that make this genealogy lark entertaining, amusing and entertaining.
However, in 2009, I resolve to spend more time with the Whysalls: they missed out on TLC while I was grazing among my mother's soft southern Pigotts (though it's reassuring to be descended from the BBC History Magazine's worst man of the 16th century).
Post-solstitial salutations to all and sundry.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
In Derbyshire: Whysall and their distaffs. In Norfolk and Cambs, Piggott/Pigot and their distaffs. In Ulster and SW Scotland, Hendry, Maud and their links. Census information may be Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk. |
|
|
spendlove
RootsChat Veteran
Posts: 508
I've not edited my PROFILE yet
|
Hi John,
If you are interested in Whysall Malsters of Belper, the site of their original farm house is about
to be developed for housing. The land/house has already been altered and at present contains
Deb Chemicals.
For detail plan:-
http://www.ambervalley.gov.uk/
Click on Planning Application Register (3rd item down on right)
next page enter AVA/2008/1263 UNDER PLANNING APPLICATION REGISTER
BELPER under Parish
when next page opens click on DOCUMENTS
when next page opens click on 2nd item under SITE LOCATION PLAN - BLOCK PLAN
The original Farm House was more or less where the large building is taking up nos 4.5 & 6 facing
on to Spencer Road.
Merry Christmas.
Spendlove.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Pages: [1]
|
|
|
|
|
