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danielsjturner
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Hi Daniel, Do you have any addresses in Penn from looking at the census forms? Oh sorry, assuming you are with ancestry.com. If you wish to pass any approx dates I would be happy to help within my capabilities.
Hi!
Yes I do use ancesty! On the census it only mentions Penn for my ancestors but it seems my great grandmother was living in Knotty green around 1910. When she married my great Grandfather, Joseph Bates they moves around mainly in the reading area. I have references for him from 2 farms so it would make sense they would move to where the work was! The postcards are addressed to My great grandmother Mary Kate Bates (Fryer) who lived at 'Alfriston, Knotty Green, Beaconsfiled' and others are addressed to 'the old barn cottage, Knotty green' the later date from 1911.
I wish i could show you this album, you would love it!
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Seabrook and Doggett Abbots langley, Herts
Robinson, Oxford
Fryer and Bates, Penn, Bucks
French, Oldbury, Worcestershire
Turner and Cunningham Galashiels, Scotland
Barrs, Leicstershire/London
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Daisy Loo
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4 generations of Prestidge, 1835-1985
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How strange...and yes indeed what a small world...ING has definately cropped up in my family tree...
I am now going to check to see where and how!
My GGG-Grandfather George was b.1833 in Waddesdon...he was the last generation to be born there (in my direct line) as he moved away, and thats when the family continued living in High Wycombe, Princes Risboro' areas.
So the manor isn't terribly interesting to me for now, as it was built some time after my ancestors had moved...although I am sure some stayed there.
I am going to have a look now for that ING connection 
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BARNETT- Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, Dorset HILSDEN/HILLSDEN/HILLSDON- Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Canada PRESTIDGE/PRESTAGE- Warwickshire, Northamptonshire, Islington PINNIGER/PINEGAR/PINNEGAR - Wiltshire Branmbleby - Kent, Middlesex
LEACH- Norfolk BUTTERWORTH - Lancashire OTTON - Somerset LAWRENCE - Berkshire
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Daisy Loo
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4 generations of Prestidge, 1835-1985
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Can't get into Ancestry at the moment, but when i can, I will post back here, regarding the ING's
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BARNETT- Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, Dorset HILSDEN/HILLSDEN/HILLSDON- Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Canada PRESTIDGE/PRESTAGE- Warwickshire, Northamptonshire, Islington PINNIGER/PINEGAR/PINNEGAR - Wiltshire Branmbleby - Kent, Middlesex
LEACH- Norfolk BUTTERWORTH - Lancashire OTTON - Somerset LAWRENCE - Berkshire
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Firstome
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hi Daniel,
Oh yes Knotty Green is well known to me but I am getting a bit old to remember exactly. Knotty Green is between Penn and Beaconsfield. My parents lived there when very first married and so did my aunt and uncle and my cousin June was born there.
Lovely tiny place. My parents must have married um ... about 1931 and aunt and uncle 1928.
I wish I could see your album too Daniel. Are you certain there is no address at all if you look at the actual census page? I have gone forward and back on the pages and found close relatives living nearby that way.
Do you know? I remember the name Bates. I wonder if my parents rented rooms from the Bates when first married?
Oh I love chatting! Thank you. Ann
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Firstome
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Can't get into Ancestry at the moment, but when i can, I will post back here, regarding the ING's
Oh how wonderful! Surely we are related as Radnage was only a small village. Do you have a surname to give me a clue?
Ancestry.com is going to be a bit dodgy tomorrow as they say they are carrying out renovation of the site. They only did this a week or so ago! grrrr
I will tell you some of the names that cross in my Ing family....
Cowley, Saunders, Stratford, Collins, Keen Rofe or Rolfe, Crowe, Rothwell, Piggot, Morsnell Stephens and Scott ... and on and on LOL
The suspense is killing me Daisy Loo
Ann
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Firstome
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West Wycombe Hill and Penn street (postcards dated WWH 1925 and Penn 14 Dec 1914)
Oh Daniel, do you know that Penn Street is a completely different village from Penn. Penn Street is a severa miles away and has its own church. It is closer to Amersham.
You probably know, but thought I would make it clear too.
Me as a little girl dressed in white at my aunty's wedding in Penn Church.
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Daisy Loo
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okay...this has surprised me...not on my Hillsdon line at all. (which is my father's) but on my mother's side. Elizabeth PAYNE was my GGG-Grandmother, she was born 1834 in Chesham, her older sister, Sarah Payne (b.1826) married a THOMAS ING b.1826, Chesham, Bucks
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BARNETT- Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, Dorset HILSDEN/HILLSDEN/HILLSDON- Buckinghamshire, Berkshire, Canada PRESTIDGE/PRESTAGE- Warwickshire, Northamptonshire, Islington PINNIGER/PINEGAR/PINNEGAR - Wiltshire Branmbleby - Kent, Middlesex
LEACH- Norfolk BUTTERWORTH - Lancashire OTTON - Somerset LAWRENCE - Berkshire
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Firstome
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Hi Cousin, (maybe or maybe not)
Well, perhaps we are cousins. Do you know if your Thomas Ing b 1826 was born in Radnage? Were his parents Charlotte Seymour and Thomas Ing?
I have a story if we have the same Thomas Ing Daisy Loo
Thomas Ing and Charlotte Seymour both born Radnage 1807 married 13.10.1827 at Stokenchurch.
To my knowledge, they had eleven children and one of these was Thomas Ing. Another was James who was my great grandfather. His twin was John.
Charlotte, their mother had her baby boy 28 Apr 1848 but she and her baby were buried 18 June 1848.
James, John the twin eleven year olds together with Alfred and Edwin (aged 6 and 4 according to the authorities), but I have my doubts on these ages. Well, all four boys were put in Bledlow Workhouse. They stayed until finishing their schooling.
Their father had a lot of children to cope with upon the death of his wife. I have had difficulty tracking down the girls as they go into service or marry before the next census. Now, I have Thomas down as marrying an Eleanor Cowley in 1865 in West Wycombe so it could be the wrong family. I have a child called Thomas born 1879
My great grandad came out of the workhouse and was a servant in the local public house. The landlord of that pub was a Jeremiah Lacey and his wife Freedom nee Buckland. They also employed Freedom's sister, Tryphena Buckland in the pub
Tryphena married James Ing 3 June 1865 in Princes Risborough Bucks. They were my great grandparents and Freedom and Tryphena came from Romany stock, being daughters of Timothy Turnit Buckland and granddaughters of Doctor Buckland born Bledlow 1769.
Ann
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danielsjturner
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Hi Firstome!
No i didn't know Penn and Penn street were different! Thank you for advising me it may help with headaches in the future!
I have had a look on the 1891 census and it says Village of Penn in the rural sanitary district of Amersham. It lists their address as Forty Green, but seeing as my local knowledge is non-existent i'm not sure whether that is the street name or a place name of a small hamlet maybe. Unfortunately all relatives of the Bates and those who knew them have passed away apart from my Mother, but I will ask if she knew about the familly renting out rooms and see what she remembers! I'lll also try and put some photo's up of some of the Bates in case it jogs any memories!!
Daniel
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Seabrook and Doggett Abbots langley, Herts
Robinson, Oxford
Fryer and Bates, Penn, Bucks
French, Oldbury, Worcestershire
Turner and Cunningham Galashiels, Scotland
Barrs, Leicstershire/London
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Firstome
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Hi Daniel,
I have copied your pictures and I will print and send to my cousin June. June is 79 and she was born in Forty Green, between Penn and Beaconsfield. Funny enough they lived a few doors away there and then my aunt and uncle and June moved to Beaconsfield and were actually next door but one to my parents! June may remember but the name Bates rings a bell with me as Mum would talk about their first maritial home.
You are right, Forty Green is a little hamlet half way between Beaconsfield and Penn. I know the house where my parents rented rooms was pointed out to me years ago.
Penn Street is another village and is closer to Amersham. Penn Street has its own church and my neice was married there.
I am away on holiday at the moment, so do not have a printer around. Ann
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Firstome
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Hi Daniel,
I have heard from my cousin who lives in Beaconsfield. She says that there are still Bates living in Forty Green. She has heard that my parents lived there when first married but that is all she can remember.
The house I remember was just around the corner from pub.
Supposed to be the oldest Pub. Think it was called The Royal Standard, but memory fails me now. Ann
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Firstome
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Lovely thank you very much for your help! It would be nice if she knew anything about them! The last 3 photos came from my album I was given and I have about 30 more photos of unidentified people! I hope you have a nice holiday!
Daniel
Daniel, I have looked up Forty Green and see the pub,
Royal Standard of England ( Forty Green)
Historic alehouse, this pub is a national asset. The building oozes history, with gnarled oak beams, flagstones and worn floors. There is a smell of wood smoke that reaches back into a lost time. This great pub is one that understands what customers want and give it with generosity. The Royal Standard of England is the oldest freehouse in England.
Also seen Bates, the builders, of Forty Green. Wonder if you are related to them?
General Builders in the Beaconsfield area General Builders in Beaconsfield area. Craigl" lpos el="http://www.smilelocal.com/general_builders/beaconsfield"General Builders in the Beaconsfield area. T Bates > General Builders in
Beaconsfield area. Craiglieth Brindle La, Forty Green, Beaconsfield, ...
Ann
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