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Jojosam
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Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« on: Tuesday 08 February 05 04:05 GMT (UK) »

We are looking for more information on a Susan (or Susannah) Maria JANVIN who was born in Mountmellick about 1822 or 1823. She went to Australia in 1841 on the ship 'Comet' with a Margaret Cullam and married William Simpson in 1843.

Her surname has also been recorded as Janvill in some records.

We don't know the given names of her parents  (noted as 'unknown' on her death certificate - her son didn't know either) so any information from parish records would be very much appreciated.

This is the first Irish ancestor we've come across so any advice about other ways to get a bit further in the search of this line would also be welcome.

Thank you.
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Re: Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 19 April 05 21:00 BST (UK) »

Hello Jojosam,

The e-mail below might have information that you are looking for.
I will try and get some information from Mountmellick in the near future.
Best wishes,
Jack
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Re: Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 19 April 05 21:01 BST (UK) »

Hello Jojosam,

The e-mail below might have information that you are looking for.
I will try and get some information from Mountmellick in the near future.
Best wishes,
Jack

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Re: Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 June 05 03:21 BST (UK) »

Hello again Jack.

I have since found out that Susan was an Episcopalian and had a brother (name unknown) who paid her fare to Australia, and she was listed as in the care of George and Peter Cullam (Margaret's brothers?).

I haven't had any luck tracing these Cullams for a clue either.  Undecided
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Re: Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 December 05 00:45 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

I am looking for a record of a John Robert Sides (Sydes) born in 1841 - possibly November and according to old family tales, in Mountmellick. The family left for England soon after and we have limited information - probably Church of Ireland

If anyone can help....

thanks  Cheesy
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Re: Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 19:17 GMT (UK) »

Hi Jojosam
Sorry - not a positive response but at least one avenue to strike off!
I have looked in my Quakers of Mountmellick Book and no mention of your Susan/Susannah nor any Cullams.

Maybe this book will prove useful to someone some day!

A-M
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Re: Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 28 February 06 19:26 GMT (UK) »

Hi Sydes2
Sorry - no specific mention of John Robert Sydes/Sides in the Quakers of Mountmellick.

Although, Sides is listed as a Quaker surname that was associated with the area of Mountmellick/Laois and Offaly and can be found in the burial records of the Mountmellick Monthy Meeting which  date from the 1650's to the 1860's.

Hope that is of interest/help?

Anne-Marie

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Re: Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 March 06 21:50 GMT (UK) »

Thank you Anne-Marie for that information. As you say, I can now cross the Quaker records off the list of possible sources of information.  Smiley

On the downside, the list of sources has dwindled almost to nothing, and I've almost resigned myself to finding out something by accident.  Undecided

As an update to my first post, I've since decided on the basis of her children's names (we know a bit more about her husband's family) that Susan's father or brother was probably called Joseph. And we've uncovered another three Irish ancestors, all just as elusive as this one. Susan's departure was some 20 years after the other branches.

I'm thinking of trying to get a handle on the history of the area (when I have some time) to help me create a few more scenarios about how her family came to be in Mountmellick, thus giving me a few more possible leads.

As everyone on this site probably knows, hope springs eternal.  Wink

Jojosam
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Re: Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 March 06 18:31 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

- Anne-Marie thanks for your information. I would be interested in any information on the Sides/Sydes family from the parish registers. I am so pleased others are looking at Mountmellick as well.  Cheesy

I have actually visited the town - been to the Church of Ireland church and the village hall, which used to be the school hall. Opposite is the Masonic Lodge and interestingly many of the graves in the CofI church have Masonic symbols. Even though I visited, I struggled to find concrete information. The one thought came from a lady there who pointed out that with the Irish accent my 'Sides' family was also known as 'Sycthes' and various other version. They all sounded the same to me!

I didnt find the Quaker links on my brief visit.

regards

Eliana

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Re: Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 04 March 06 19:02 GMT (UK) »

Hi Eliana
If you can visit your local LDS you can order a copy of the film with the parish records on.  Not sure what records for Mountmellick they have from my notes I think - Catholic parish records and Society of Friends!

Happy hunting!!

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Re: Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 21 August 07 19:49 BST (UK) »

Taken from Mountmellick cemetery records 1930-2001;

Shynes? Mary  (63)  Housekeeper, Widow, Lord Edward St, 10/1/1942

Sythes Elizabeth, (96), Labourer, Married, Co Home Mountmellick,
22/2/1947.

Records very poor, if I come across more I will foward same.
Jack
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Re: Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 28 August 07 14:31 BST (UK) »

Hi,
I,m trying to find anything on Sarah Orange, born c. 1835. I know she was baptised (Roman Catholic) in Mountmellick, and her mother's name was Mary, but I'm afraid that's it.
Anything you can find would be gratefully appreciated.
Thanks, Vaison.
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Re: Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 28 August 07 17:26 BST (UK) »

Hi Vaison,
There is no mention of the Orange surname in my records, both from Laois County Council and my own.
If you go to Mountmellick Marriage records you will find a marriage in 1826 between John Keeran & Mary Orange.
The only Orange surname is Laois at the moment is in Portarlington and perhaps you could contact them to see if they have any family history.
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Jack
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Re: Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 28 August 07 17:38 BST (UK) »

Hi, Janvin,
Thanks for your help. I will certainly take your advice

Vaison.
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Re: Mountmellick Parish Registers - Janvin
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 29 August 07 00:01 BST (UK) »

Hello again SeanMac.

We haven't found out much more about the elusive Susannah Janvin but we have come up with some (albeit slender) details to keep us searching.

We saw a shipping record which showed that Susannah's reference was provided by one Valentin Labalt (maybe Labolt). Could he give us a lead to more about Susannah - if we find out who he was.

We've also been looking at some of her children's extended family and noticed that the name Franklin comes up a few times as a second name. Her own son no. 6 had this as his second name.  Her first son was named after his paternal grandfather and third son after his father. So we're also wondering if second son, Joseph, was named after  his maternal grandfather.

All this is long-winded way of presuming on your generosity and asking you two things:

1. Does the name Labalt come up in your records of Laois?

2. Is there a Joseph Franklin in those records?

I'd be really grateful for any light from your records. 

Thank you.

Jojosam
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