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RuhaM
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Noble McKenzie McTavish Cumming
« on: Saturday 27 December 08 20:23 UTC (UK) »
Hi -- Looking for any information at all about a Roderick Noble or Margaret Mckenzie.  Married in the Parish of Cawdor, county of Nairn 12 December 1857.  On the marriage record it cites

      Roderick as a farm servant. Residence - Little Urchany.  Parents - Donald Noble (Farmer) and Janet Noble maiden name MacTavish

      Margaret - Domestic servant - Parents - John McKenzie, agricultural labourer (Deceased) and Isabella McKenzie, nee Cumming,   
                Deceased.

This couple had a child - Isabella born October 10 1858.  Little Felfermain (??spelling)  County of Nairn - Roderick's occupation is recorded as 'Ploughman ' on Isabella's birth certificate.

They left Scotland in 1859 on the "Gala" and arrived in Port Chalmers (New Zealand) in 1860.  It is possible that Margaret had a brother called William (Wm) who also went on the same passage to New Zealand as a Wm McKenzie is listed on the passenger list.


Isabella is my Great Grandmother - Any information at all about this family in Scotland would be so much appreciated - Thank You

Deni
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Anderson - Charlseton, Westport - and Shetland Islands
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Re: Noble McKenzie McTavish Cumming
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 January 09 07:37 UTC (UK) »
hi ruhaM  Smiley

welcome to rootschat

possible 1841 family on freeCEN
11 blairmore cawdor nairn
john mckenzie 45 agricultural labourer born outside census county
isabella wife 35 born o.c.c.
isabella 15 born o.c.c.
christina 10 born nairn
william 8 born nairn
john 6 born nairn
david 3 born nairn

this would line up with children of john mckenzie and isabella cumming
from the IGI -
isabella baptized 27th dec 1824 inverness inverness'shire
john born 16th jan 1836 baptized 25th jan 1836 cawdor nairn
david born 31st march 1838 baptized 10th april 1838 cawdor nairn
alexander born 25th dec 1826 baptized 31st dec 1826 cawdor nairn
christian born 17th april 1831 baptized 18th april 1831

marriage of john mckenzie and isabella cumming 5th jan 1824 inverness
inverness'shire

now IGI has a marriage for donald mcdonald and isabella cumming
7th dec 1849 cawdor nairn so i think john mckenzie had died by then

1851
piperhill cawdor nairn
donald mcdonald 49 contractor born contin ross and cromarty
isabella wife 47 born inverness inverness'shire
m(margaret ?) mckenzie daughter(step ?) 21 born cawdor nairn
jean daug. 9 born inverness
john son 6 born inverness

hope this helps

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Re: Noble McKenzie McTavish Cumming
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 January 09 07:44 UTC (UK) »
hi

have just found on IGI margaret mackenzie 24th may 1829 baptized
1st june 1829 cawdor nairn
parents john mackenzie and elizabeth(isabella ?) cumming

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Re: Noble McKenzie McTavish Cumming
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 January 09 08:04 UTC (UK) »
Thanks heaps for this -- I had found the two census records and wondered of they were related but as Margt was with a MacDonald family I was not sure.  I did not link in to the 1849 marriage - and with this extra piece of informatin it majkes more sense.

On Margaet and Rodericks mARRIAGE certificate her address is recorded as "Blairmore' - this is a a very strong link to the first (1841) CENSUS YOU  have found.

Again - thanks heaps

Now - I wonder where to from ere - Need to folow up on Roderick Noble some more - but also somehow suss out oif the William in this family if the Wm McKensie who was on the same ship as Roderick. Margerat and baby Isabella.

Regards

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Borthwick - Central Otago, York, Durham, Midlothian
Moss - Rothwell and Hunslet - Leeds
Green - Queenstown, Gore, Wooton - Oxforshire
Noble - Warepa (Otago) - Nairnshire Scotland
Poole - Charleston (NZ) and Cumberland or Liverpool
Perry - Charleston Buller, Cumberland and Staffordshire
Anderson - Charlseton, Westport - and Shetland Islands
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Re: Noble McKenzie McTavish Cumming
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 January 09 09:09 UTC (UK) »
hi  Smiley

possible from IGI -

william fraser mckenzie born 30th may 1833 baptized 5th june 1833
cawdor nairn parents alexander(john ?) mackenzie and isobell cumming

does the marriage cert. give ages for roderick and margaret ?

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Re: Noble McKenzie McTavish Cumming
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 January 09 17:56 UTC (UK) »
yes - it isays both are 27 years old in 1857 - this would support the 1829 birth record - ecept for the 'Elisbeth' instead of Isobel - however it is possible that there was a mix up with the mothers name because they are 'close'
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Borthwick - Central Otago, York, Durham, Midlothian
Moss - Rothwell and Hunslet - Leeds
Green - Queenstown, Gore, Wooton - Oxforshire
Noble - Warepa (Otago) - Nairnshire Scotland
Poole - Charleston (NZ) and Cumberland or Liverpool
Perry - Charleston Buller, Cumberland and Staffordshire
Anderson - Charlseton, Westport - and Shetland Islands
RuhaM
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Re: Noble McKenzie McTavish Cumming
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 24 January 09 01:03 UTC (UK) »
Hi again - just relooking at all this - Margaret's children in New Zealand were named Margaret (died age 3), John, Mary Fraser, and Alexander.  The names Mary Fraser and Alexander fit with the names you have found back in Scotland.  There is a Wm McKenzie on the ships list (The Gala) that Roderick and Margaret came out on - also of much interest is the birth certificate of her youngest baby Alexander (I think Roderick was gone before the birth of his youngest child)  - the 'informant' of the birth to the register is a "William McKenzie - settler' .
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Borthwick - Central Otago, York, Durham, Midlothian
Moss - Rothwell and Hunslet - Leeds
Green - Queenstown, Gore, Wooton - Oxforshire
Noble - Warepa (Otago) - Nairnshire Scotland
Poole - Charleston (NZ) and Cumberland or Liverpool
Perry - Charleston Buller, Cumberland and Staffordshire
Anderson - Charlseton, Westport - and Shetland Islands
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