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Topic: *COMPLETED* HANDLEY family Brimfield in 1871 (Read 432 times)
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cassiar
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Hi,
I'm looking for 1841-1861 census listings for Joseph and Sarah Handley (who were in Brimfield in 1871 with children Elizabeth, Mary Ann, Thomas and Richard).
Also - Sarah, the mom, was born in Kington (don't know her maiden name), so I wonder if she and Joseph were married there c. 1859.
My father-in-law said that one of the children of this family was quite involved in the Salvation Army, so if there's any info in that regard I'd appreciate it too. Maybe Sarah's family was the connection?
Thanks,
cassiar
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Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire, Cheshire - Nainby, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Sparks, Barker
Cornwall - Mann
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae
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Spidermonkey
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Got them on the 1861 census in Llandingat, Carmathenshire
Kings Rd
Joseph Handley H Mar 32 Farm merchant bn Hereford, Eardisland
Sarah Handley W Mar 24 Dittos wife bn Radnor, Kington
Sarah E Handley Dau 3 Scholar bn Hereford, Eardisland
Elizabeth Handley Dau 11mnths bn Hereford, Eardisland
John Carry boarder 67 Baker? bn Devon, Tiverton
RG9/4122/65/11
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Spidermonkey
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There is a possible marriage on freebmd - Joseph Handley may have married Sarah Turner Dec qtr 1857, Presteigne 11b 363
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cassiar
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Thank you Spidermonkey - the 1861 info is great! Would a "farm merchant" have sold implements to farmers or bought and sold farms or....?
The marriage to Sarah Turner could be right. It's the right time frame and general area. I'm not sure how this could be confirmed.
Also I found a Joseph Handley born in 1830 in Eardisland whose father was also Joseph Handley (mother Sarah ?) - on the IGI.
Any luck with the 1851/1841 censuses?
cassiar
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Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire, Cheshire - Nainby, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Sparks, Barker
Cornwall - Mann
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae
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Spidermonkey
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I did see some possibilities, but have just walked in after a couple of days away so will post later tonight/tomorrow!
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Spidermonkey
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I can't say with absolute certainty that this is your family, but everything seems to fit!
1841 HO107/426/17/7 Round? House, Eardisland
Joseph Handley 50 Farmer
Sarah Handley 46
James Handley 15
Ann Handley 14
Joseph Handley 11
Mary Handley 8
All born in county
In 1851, all except Joseph are still at ROund House, Eardisland:
HO107/1979/321/9
Joseph Handley Head Mar 66 Farmer of 13 acres bn Kinnersley
Sarah Handley Wife Mar 58 Farmers wife bn Eardisland
James Handley son unm 25 Farmers son bn Burton
Ann Handley dau unm 23 Farmers dau bn Burton
Mary Handley dau unm 18 Farmers dau bn Burton
All place are Herefordshire
There is a Joseph Handley (unmarried, aged 20, bn Eardisland) who is a farm servant in the household of Henry Hall in Ashton, Eye, Herefordshire (HO107/1981/424/11)
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cassiar
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I very much appreciate your help Spidermonkey. I was away for a couple weeks so am just getting back to this now.
Thanks,
cassiar
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Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire, Cheshire - Nainby, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Sparks, Barker
Cornwall - Mann
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae
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cassiar
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Hi Spidermonkey,
Would you please check the 1841 census in or around Kington for a Turner family with a daughter Sarah (who would be 3 or 4), and if you find them, also the 1851 census for that family.
And also, do you have access to the 1891 census, and if so, would you please look up Joseph and Sarah Handley? They were in Richard's Castle in 1881 and still had young children.
Thanks
cassiar
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Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire, Cheshire - Nainby, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Sparks, Barker
Cornwall - Mann
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae
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Spidermonkey
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Hi Cassiar,
Here is a possible entry for Joseph and Sarah in the 1891 census
44 Maylord St, Hereford
Joseph Handley Head Mar 64 Engine driver bn Pembridge, Hereford Disabled
Sarah Handley Wife Mar 56 bn Kington, Herefordshire
Richard W Handley Son 22 Railway porter bn Brimfield
Ellenor Handley Dau 14 Scholar bn Shropshire Wooferton
Charles H Handley Son 11 Scholar bn Shropshire Wooferton
Frances Handley Son 8 Scholar bn Shropshire Wooferton
RG12; Piece: 2061; Folio 48; Page 38
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Spidermonkey
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1901 Census
Joseph is dead, but the family are still living at 44 Maylord Terrace, and written above the address is Salvation Army Books
Sarah Handley Head Wid 62 bn Hargest, Herefordshire
Charles Henry Handley Son 21 Whitesmith bn Shropshire, Wooferton
Francis J Handley Son 18 Shop assistant at book store bn Shropshire, Wooferton
Henry Thompson Boarder 29 Railway brakesman bn Worcester
RG13; Piece: 2481; Folio: 134; Page: 25
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Spidermonkey
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1841 census
Hergest ?
Jas Turner 36 Ag lab
Amelia Turner 26
Ann Turner 8
James Turner 5
Sarah Turner 3
Elizth Turner 2 weeks
All bn in county
HO107; Piece 423; Folio: 4; Page: 4;
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Spidermonkey
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1851 census, Rodd, Nash
James Turner Head Mar 47 Labourer bn Kington, Herefordshire
Amelia Turner Wife Mar 38 Domestic bn Builth, Brecon
Sarah Turner dau 13 bn Kington, Herefordshire
Ellenor Turner dau 7 bn Kington, Herefordshire
Mary Turner dau 5 bn Kington, Herefordshire
John Turner son 1mnth bn Little Brampton
Elizth Turner [no relationship given] 9 bn Kington, Herefordshire
HO107; Piece: 2492; Folio: 449; Page: 15
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Spidermonkey
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James Turner married Amelia Price 26 Jan 1832 in Kington
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cassiar
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Hi Spidermonkey,
Thanks a lot for your help. My original query has been answered, so I've changed this to "Completed" and will start a new query for anything further.
You've been great!
cassiar
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Shropshire - Simmons, Simcock, Smith, Bowen, Matthews, Handley
Herefordshire, Radnorshire, Carmathenshire - Handley, Turner, Price
Lincolnshire, Yorkshire, Cheshire - Nainby, Foster
Staffordshire - Goldsmith, Sparks, Barker
Cornwall - Mann
Northern Ireland - Gracey, Heron
Australia - Simmons, Bliss, McCrae
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