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Topic: Westgate St. IPSWICH - 1891. (Read 2853 times)
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greensleeves
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Greensleeves
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Snowing hard here this morning. Why do dogs love snow so much? Young Titus has been rolling around in it, making what my daughter describes as "snow goblins" as opposed to the snow angels which children make. Then he gets back indoors, thaws out, realises he's wet, and goes off crashing into the soft furnishings!
Fingers crossed for the certificate results, David. I am hunting down the Ast(h)ill connection. Interestingly, it is often in census records as Astell, Astall, Asbill and in one case Astili. I am now scrutinising three Georges, one William and one Frederick. There is another George a bit older than Annie who was Clerk to the Justices in Newark. But any relationship here seems unlikely as she was a housekeeper domestic; unless .... Hmmm, wish we could find out who was living at Appletongate in the 1891 census. Any idea if you can search for properties rather than people?
Greensleeves
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Suffolk: Pearl(e) & variations - Brettenham, Hitcham,Rattlesden; Waddilove - Rattlesden and possibly Norfolk. Garnham - Belstead, Ipswich & area.
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick - West Hartlepool, Middlesbrough, Leeds, Merrington.
Shadforth - Hartlepool/Stockton
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onefortheroad
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William Henry Turner - the Grandfather I never met
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Hi Greensleeves.
The only way I know of searching by address is as follows:
On Anc....y, click on 1891 census. Scroll down past the search box to a list of counties. Click Nottingham. On the next list, click Newark. All the enumeration districts will be displayed. Click on 'view details of enumeration district'.
This gives you a walking route, a bit like a postmans round. When you think you have the right district, click on 'district no. 1/2/3/4/ and so on.
You'll then be at page one on that 'round'. Problem is, some districts have 60-70 pages, while some only have a handful.
It's then a matter of looking for the right address and the right name.
It's an idea to print off a street plan of the area before starting so you can identify the places on the enum.dist. description.
The good news, Greensleeves, is that I actually did all that the other night and it would appear that the the bit that we need is on district 4 or 5, both of which are missing from the records !
But feel free to have a look at 6 & 7. I'd value a second opinion. The house is at the corner of Appletongate and Sydney St, on the east side of Appletongate. I worked this out from the photos and a street plan.
BTW, I love the idea that her chap may be an ASTILI .
Always thought I had some Italian blood in my veins !
Imagine; Annie, a mafia gangster's moll !
Settle down David...................it was just a thought.
Off to play 'roll the dog in the snow' now ! We awoke to 3 to 4" this morning and it keeps coming down really heavy from time to time. I understand we're in for it again tonight.
That's a thought......shouldn't you be at work? Not being nosey, just wondered.
Speak to you later.
David.
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Yorkshire: Riley, Holdstock, Smith, Turner, Pearson, Bailey, Swift.
Devon: Spry, Gimblett, Sleep, Wyvell(Wyvill), Fox, Kingsbear.
Lancashire; Squires (Swires).
Norfolk/Suffolk: Auston, Bedwell, Crooks, Charlish.
Essex: Auston,.
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suffolkmawther
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'Jumper' & Eliza Fulker
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Hello yew tew t'gether,
I did have a look through Enumeration District 6 this morning before I drove down to Dad's. It did say Appleton Gate on the details page, but only a very small part of it, and no help at all.
I wondered about missing 4 and 5 - might have known they held the key to Appletongate!
I keep putting the dog's coat on him when he goes out, as otherwise he gets 'lost' in the snow! He is coming up to 12 years old, a docile very white Jack Russell that we rehomed 8 years ago.
Hardly any traffic on the roads between here and next village to see Dad this morning.
Must do some housework for a while now 
Tanti Auguri cari Davide (e anche a Greensleeves) 
Pat ...
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Every time I find an ancestor, I have to find two more !
SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally from Framlingham/Parham Suffolk)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert and Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith/Barnes LND - Fulker
LONDON/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
Gt-Grandfather Michael Wilson was born in Cork, lived in Fulham London - arrived Boston USA 1889 alone - what happened next?
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onefortheroad
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William Henry Turner - the Grandfather I never met
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Hi Pat.
There's a bit more of Appletongate on district 7 but no junction with Sydney St.
The only bit that may be what we're looking for is the part that mentions "the new houses". But this only covers a few properties and in the photos, there are quite a lot of them.
It's coming down thick and fast here. The forecasters reckon we won't get the worst of it until tonight.
It's a long time since I've seen this amount of snow around here.
Our lad's 14 but still like a pup (typical Labrador).
He absolutely loves the snow but the second he starts to feel the cold, that's it! Game over ! He makes a beeline for the house and heads straight for the fire.
Which, come to think of it, is not such a bad idea !!!!
Regards, David.
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Yorkshire: Riley, Holdstock, Smith, Turner, Pearson, Bailey, Swift.
Devon: Spry, Gimblett, Sleep, Wyvell(Wyvill), Fox, Kingsbear.
Lancashire; Squires (Swires).
Norfolk/Suffolk: Auston, Bedwell, Crooks, Charlish.
Essex: Auston,.
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greensleeves
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Greensleeves
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Hi David and Pat
Heavy snow here - have just got back from taking Titus for an early walk, as I don't think I'll be too keen to go out when it starts getting darker. It has been snowing all day and looks very picturesque, so long as you don't have to go anywhere!
I decided to work from home today - I have a link into the Authority's network, which means I can send & receive emails and get to my files. I am supposed to wfh at least once a fortnight (fuel-saving initiatives) but it hardly ever happens. But really, really didn't want to get trapped in town, about 10 miles from where I live, with a lot of hills in between...
Thanks for the info on how to search by address. I will give it a try this evening. Oh, last night I discovered the burial in a pauper's grave in Notts of one George Astill in 1911 and my heart gave a lurch; but he was 68 and hence (one would hope) a bit old for the role of Annie's lover. Phew!
Greensleeves
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Suffolk: Pearl(e) & variations - Brettenham, Hitcham,Rattlesden; Waddilove - Rattlesden and possibly Norfolk. Garnham - Belstead, Ipswich & area.
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick - West Hartlepool, Middlesbrough, Leeds, Merrington.
Shadforth - Hartlepool/Stockton
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onefortheroad
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William Henry Turner - the Grandfather I never met
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Good morning all.
Fed up with the snow now. It's been here too long - outstayed it's welcome - time for some sun and warmth
I hope you two are both surviving the weather ok. I think we've seen the last of the white stuff till tomorrow night at least but further south, there's some more on it's way for next week.
On a cheerier note; the EASTWELL/SMITH marriage cert arrived this morning.
Annie Elizabeth Eastwell is more than a spelling error after all - she is the spinster daughter of one Joseph Eastwell, labourer, of Holbeck, Leeds.
So obviously, the 1909 marriage to Maurice Smith is absolutely nothing to do with our Annie.
While I am not unrelieved at this turn of events, it does now leave a gap that we thought may have been plugged. Heyho !
So there is a real likelihood that, as Maurice was the only Smith to marry an Annie Elizabeth in Leeds in the right timeframe, our Annie will have married her Mr.Smith somewhere else. In fact, given Annie's penchant for travel, the deed could have been done absolutely anywhere in the country !
I can feel a headache coming on...................thanks Annie.
Best wishes, David.
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Yorkshire: Riley, Holdstock, Smith, Turner, Pearson, Bailey, Swift.
Devon: Spry, Gimblett, Sleep, Wyvell(Wyvill), Fox, Kingsbear.
Lancashire; Squires (Swires).
Norfolk/Suffolk: Auston, Bedwell, Crooks, Charlish.
Essex: Auston,.
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greensleeves
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Hi David
Weather here has been pretty vile; still can't get car out so daughter and I trudged through the snow down the hill to the next village today to get provisions (mostly food for the dog and cats, needless to say!).
I have been amusing myself with trying to eliminate G Astills from our list of potential candidates ie if they appear in the 1901 census then they are of no interest to us. Currently my two favourites are George Astill b. 1863 St Mary, Nottingham, and George Astill b. 1860 Plumtree. There is a marriage in 1881 of a George Astill in Nottingham but without certificate obviously I don't know who it is.
I have found all sorts of interesting things during my meanderings: for example, I stumbled upon the entire complement of the Leeds Cavalry Barracks in the 1901 census, which is absolutely fascinating (no Astills, but interesting nonetheless). Most of the officers appear to have been born in East India, as did the lady wife of the CO. And there are rather graphic job titles such as 'Rough Rider' which makes on wonder what on earth was required of the poor fellow.
A rather sad appearance was of one Gertrude Emma Astill, born 1884 in Nottingham, who in the 1901 census, at age 17, is an 'inmate' of Millers Orphan House, Bristol. How on earth did she get down there? I feel so sad, and wonder which part of the family she came from. Can't find her in any records further back, though. Am wondering whose child she was and what awful events led her to this.
Nice to hear from you again, David. Let's hope weather improves soon so I can do some shopping and get back to work (note order of priorities!).
Greensleeves
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Suffolk: Pearl(e) & variations - Brettenham, Hitcham,Rattlesden; Waddilove - Rattlesden and possibly Norfolk. Garnham - Belstead, Ipswich & area.
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick - West Hartlepool, Middlesbrough, Leeds, Merrington.
Shadforth - Hartlepool/Stockton
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suffolkmawther
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'Jumper' & Eliza Fulker
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I have been watching news reports and realise both of you have had much worse snow than here in Suffolk, where we avoided the really heavy snowfalls.
Apart from shady areas, it has pretty much all melted away in the sunshine earlier today.
At the moment I am 'snowed under' at home - with Annual Reports arriving from the Local History Recorders all over the county. I have not been into the office for over a week and I had a telephone call to let me know of a meeting next Friday morning and to advise me that my Intray is overflowing with Reports for 2008. I am reading every one and replying individually, so takes up a lot of time.
Once these are out of the way I can get back to the family history research, even if dear Annie is not one of my own, I have become quite fond of her
Best wishes to each and I hope the sun will soon come your way too - although the worry then will be where will all the water go - Lavenham was flooded on Friday with the melted snow and ice coming off the fields and whooshing along the High Street!
Pat ...
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Every time I find an ancestor, I have to find two more !
SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally from Framlingham/Parham Suffolk)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert and Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith/Barnes LND - Fulker
LONDON/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
Gt-Grandfather Michael Wilson was born in Cork, lived in Fulham London - arrived Boston USA 1889 alone - what happened next?
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