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Topic: Runcies of Cullen, Boyndie, and Keith (Read 471 times)
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Chalfont
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Does anyone have information about a possible link between William Runcie (b. Cullen, 6 September 1741), his wife Elspet Wood (b. Cullen, 24 April 1748), and John Runcie (born Boyndie, abt. 1807)? The last of these was the father of Elizabeth Runcie (born Boyndie, 8 August 1843).
At first I thought the line came through James Runcie (b. Keith, 16 April 1780) and his wife Margaret Thomson (no birthdate available). But Scotland’s People shows James and Margaret’s marriage at Keith on 14 February 1836. I’ve made an error here and cannot figure out where I’ve gone wrong. Different people of the same name?
Any help gratefully appreciated.
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Chalfont
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Thanks to those who have looked at this request. I am pleased to say that I have solved the problem after some digging. From John's statutory death certifictate (Portsoy, 17 September 1886) I have found that his parents were Alexander Runcie and Margaret Fraser. Alexander died on 28 November 1886 in Fordyce so complete details are also available him. He was the son of James Runcie and Margaret Smith of Fordyce. I have some other extra details including James's parents. If anyone would like them please request them directly.
Thanks for your interest. 
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mruncie77
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Hi Chalfont -
Interesting you have some information re the Runcies of Cullen, Boyndie & Keith... My great-grandfather was a James Runcie, who lived near Huntly in 1856/7, as a farm servant at Lessendrum Farm. Does your information stretch to knowing the history of this guy? I note there's a long, straight road from Portsoy (near Cullen) right down to Huntly. It would take only a day or so to get there... I do know of a James Runcie (from Keith) who died about 1856, so I don't think it would be him.
It would be really interesting to hear from you - particularly if you can throw any light on his family background.
Kind Regards...
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Chalfont
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Hi mruncie77:
In my line, I have James Runcie born 14 April 1833 to John Runcie and Margaret McKenzie in Boyndie, which is just west of the town of Banff. James was the first-born child,to John and Margaret who were married in Boyndie on 8 July 1832. James's sister Elizabeth (born 8 August 1843) was my great grandmother who married William Murray in Ordiquihill on 11 Febraury 1865.
If this is the same James as you are tracking, he would have been about 24 in 1856. Can you find a reference in the 1861 census, which I believe gives the parish of birth?
I can send you more material about this line of Runcies but as they were prolific and used common names like James and John quite a lot, I can't substantiate that your James and mine are the same person.
Send more info if you like.
Best wishes.
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mruncie77
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Hi Chalfont -
Impressed by your speedy reply - thanks. Interesting you've come up with the same James Runcie as a member of the Aberdeen & N. E. Scotland Family History Society. He sent me a sketch of his(*) own Runcie connections & he's on the branch from the second marriage (in 1853) of John Runcie (1804-1886) to Elspet (Shand?)(1831-1916). Whereas there were 5 children (including the James you suggest) and Elizabeth from John's first marriage to Margaret McKenzie, his second marriage to Elspet brought him a further 7 children - including Alexander (b1854) from whom his(*) line descends...
But, when I proposed this (your) James (b1833) to the ANESFHS researcher, she pooh-poohed the suggestion (not totally clear why) - I think on the grounds that that James Runcie never married & moved around quite a bit, ending up age about 65 still working on railway tracks & living in communal accommodation. But certainly to me he's a strong (if not the only) contender & I'm pleased to have your information.
Obviously, if you have other Jameses who might fit the bill, I'd be interested. It's well known that fisher families (like many Runcies) tended to continue in that trade & less likely that one of the family would suddenly go into 'farming'. Mind you, someone had to grow the veggies - no good eating fish ALL the time!!!
I'll tell my other contact (who's not on the internet) that you exist. He lives in the west of Scotland (I now live near London). I don't know how one can communicate off this media (rootschat) - except by divulging all(!?)
Thanks again...
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Chalfont
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Hi mruncie77:
I'd be interested in carrying this conversation further. Can you send en e-mail to my private address (*) and we can pool our knowledge about the Runcies?
The Runcies are certainly among my more interesting forebears.
Hope to hear from you.
Chalfont
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Chalfont
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Sorry to the moderator that I publicly posted my e-mail address and thanks to you for removing it. I should have conactted the other party securely. This was an oversight on my part.
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