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carrie2439
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HELP
« on: Friday 02 January 09 16:45 UTC (UK) »
I have located McWhire's in Kirkgunzeon and Ashton and am trying to to find a link between the two. I have not found any death records and only 1 marriage record in Kirkgunzeon. Is there anybody that can help??
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McWhire Lancashire and Scotland.
Jackson Lancashire.
Kershaw Lancashire.
Hilton Lancashire.
akc
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Re: HELP
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 January 09 19:50 UTC (UK) »
Do you have any names or dates? I have looked on Ancestry and there are a lot of McWhire,s in Kirkudbright and Ashton, Lancashire

AKC
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carrie2439
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Re: HELP
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 January 09 00:20 UTC (UK) »
the main place that I am stuck is Ashton with John Thomas McWhire who married Susannah Revell. I have no record of birth marriage or death for him but know he is related to me through my family bible.

Any help you can give on this would be greatly appreciated, at least then I may be able to track a connection to Kirkgunzeon.

Thank you
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McWhire Lancashire and Scotland.
Jackson Lancashire.
Kershaw Lancashire.
Hilton Lancashire.
Reiver
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Re: HELP
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 January 09 19:39 UTC (UK) »
Hi Carrie

You say Ashton?   Do you know any part of this address other than just Asnton?

By the way welcome to Rootschat.  I hope we can help. Smiley

Regards
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carrie2439
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Re: HELP
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 03 January 09 23:55 UTC (UK) »
Hi Reiver

Thanks for your reply. All I have on John Thomas McWhire is the following date of burial 11/11/1914 aged 67 years last living at 5 Oldham Road, Royton. I know that he married Susannah Celia Revell dec qtr 1874 in Ashton Under Lyne but have no further details. Hope this is enough info.

Thanks again
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McWhire Lancashire and Scotland.
Jackson Lancashire.
Kershaw Lancashire.
Hilton Lancashire.
akc
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Re: HELP
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 January 09 10:12 UTC (UK) »
Hi again, is this your man? John Mcwhire b abt 1848 Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancs on 1881 census, 20 Market St,grocer employing 1 man & 1 boy. In the house are: John Mcwhire 33, Celia Mcwhire 32, Harry 2 and Florence. There is also a Mary Ann Hall aged 13.

AKC
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carrie2439
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Re: HELP
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 January 09 10:28 UTC (UK) »
Hi AKC

Looks like you have found him in the only place that I can find him. It seems that after 1881 he vanishes and before 1881 he doesn't exist this is where I'm stuck.

Let me know if you have any more luck.
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McWhire Lancashire and Scotland.
Jackson Lancashire.
Kershaw Lancashire.
Hilton Lancashire.
akc
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Re: HELP
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 January 09 10:49 UTC (UK) »
Just checking I had the right man before I look anywhere else, I found a lot of McWhire,s in Kirkudbright from the 1700,s in the Twynholm and Kirkgunzeon area.

AKC
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merryhow
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Re: HELP
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 January 09 12:32 UTC (UK) »

Hi, Anc*****  have him on the 1871 census, aged 22yrs b Ashton Lancs.

Reg Dist -  Salford

Sub Reg - Greengate

Ed Instition or Vessel - 24

Household Schedule NO. - 10

I don't have a membership so can't give you details of the other members of the household, perhaps someone else can help
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Re: HELP
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 04 January 09 13:27 UTC (UK) »
Hi

I think this is him in 1851 but who his parents were is unclear:

1851
Peel Street, Ashton Under Lyne
HO107/2233 F 141 P 44

Joseph Herrad, widr, ?80 or 60, Hand Loom Weaver
James, son, 38, Cotton Spiner
Emma, diL, 46, b. Yorks, NK
Sarah Ann, dau, 16 Drawer cotton
John, grdson, 13, Cotton piecer, b. Cheshire
Joseph, grdson, 8, scholar
Emma, grddau, 5, scholar
Nathaniel, grdson, 4 months
John Thos McQuire, grdson, 3, scholar

all others b. Ashton Under Lyne

Note - McWhire and McQuire would sound very similar.


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carrie2439
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Re: HELP
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 04 January 09 13:35 UTC (UK) »
Hi Gadget

Thanks for the info, looking at the list it looks like James and Emma could be his parents, although that would make Emma an old mother.

I wil try this info on familysearch.

Thanks
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McWhire Lancashire and Scotland.
Jackson Lancashire.
Kershaw Lancashire.
Hilton Lancashire.
Gadget
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Re: HELP
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 04 January 09 13:41 UTC (UK) »
Hi

He has a different surname to James and Emma!  I'd say his mother was one of James's sisters.

In 1841, this is the Herrod family:

Horley hill Guidelane, Audenshaw, Ashton under Lyne
HO107/533 Bk 1 F 37 P 21

Herrod
Joseph, 50, ?occ- Lh or Sh
Ann, 50
Hannah, 25, Power L Weaver
Ann, 22, Power L Weaver
Alice, 20, Power L Weaver
Thomas, 17, Porter
Nancy, 15

All b. Lancashire


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Gadget
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Re: HELP
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 04 January 09 13:55 UTC (UK) »
FreeBMD has this birth reg:

John Thomas McQuire, Dec q, 1847, Ashton under Lyne, vol 20 Page 5? *

I'll go check the main index to see if I can work out the page number.


Gadget

* Added - definitely Page 5
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carrie2439
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Re: HELP
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 04 January 09 14:08 UTC (UK) »
Just to add further confusion I have found a John Thomas Maguire 22/09/1847.
It shows on the IGI

HELP!!
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McWhire Lancashire and Scotland.
Jackson Lancashire.
Kershaw Lancashire.
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Gadget
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Re: HELP
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 04 January 09 14:15 UTC (UK) »
It could have been a late registration  - Dec Quarter runs from October 1st to Dec 31st - so a 22 Sept birth would fit.

What names does it give for his parents? To save me looking  Grin


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