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Topic: The Wobbly Wheel Pub, Warmington, Banbury (Read 1088 times)
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Frustrated Iban
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Hi there,
Firstly a Happy New Year to one and all this being my first query of 2009.
Down to business - last year I had the occasion to stay overnight at this place and was fascinated by its antiquity and general decor including a beam over one of the pub windows listing the 'colours' captured at the Battle of Edge Hill 1648 by the Parliamentarian forces and even more so by the brass elephant heads which hold up/support the bar rails. Although I made enquiries of the staff at the hotel they were unaware of any historical connection in respect of those latter heads -does anyone know anything at all about them to put me out of my misery each and every time I go into my photo albums and see them raising the question each time 'Why are they there?' This is a serious question so the usual remarks re 'what colour are they etc' or obviously holding up the bar rails etc' , would be considered far too frivolous .They seem to have small ears so presumably are of the Indian species, then again constant polishing may have reduced them to their current state.(way ahead of you!!)
Did Robert Earle of Essex, Commander of the Parliamentary Forces at that time have any military or Indian connections? Anyone - any ideas.
Now you know why my NDP is such.
Cheers,
George.
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Frustrated Iban
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Hi there Pennie,
And a happy, healthy, prosperous and succesful year to you - what a crying shame in the removal of the elephant brasses, They were a talking point to those who noticed them, having read the blurb and seen all the new photographs, the restaurant looks very posh indeed but the bar area appears to have suffered at the hands of the developers - no doubt will suit the happy hour mob. Hey ho at least I still have all the photographs I took including the close up of the efelants.
Will take your advise and contact the Banbury Historical Society, I wonder if those items will ever appear on ebay???
Cheers,
George.
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Satchwell
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Hi George,
This is not about the subject in hand, but I have got myself a little confused and wondered if you would mind doing yet another lookup for me please.
I would be most grateful if you could once more check the Deddington BMD records for me.
I am looking for the TAYLOR family. Martha Taylor married Samuel Satchwell and I believe her Father may have been either Richard Taylor or William Taylor
Once more many thanks for your time and help.
Satchwell/Mel
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Frustrated Iban
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G'day Mel,
OK so I found the marriage on O.M.I.
26 Dec 1734. TAYLOR, Martha, m. SATCHWELL, Samuel, by Banns. Deddington.
No further details.
Checking the Deddington PR's confirmed this marriage but again no further information re witnesses or families. So I then went looking for the possible date of baptism of Martha and found not one but two.
23 Jun 1710, TAYLER, Martha, d/o Richard & Martha.
20 Dec 1714, TAYLOR, Martha, d/o John & Mary.
Do you have details of any siblings for Martha to help me sort out which one married Samuel?
Sorry to add to the confusion.
George.
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Satchwell
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Hello George,
There is total confusion over this Martha Taylor/Tayler
I had her in my records as Martha Taylor bp. 28/2//1813 Deddington and her parents as William Taylor & Martha Skitmore married 1807 Deddington.
Someone told me I had it wrong and she was bp. 23/6/1710 Deddington and her parents are Richard Taylor (1685-1736) & Martha Lewit (1684-1738)
Now you tell me there is another Martha bp 24/12/1714 parents John & Mary
I have since found two other folk who say Martha's parent's were Richard Taylor & Martha Lewitt, but they both have different parent's for Richard being: Richard Taylor & Elizabeth Rymill and Richard Taylor & Judith Twiss
The only thing I know for sure is that the marriage for Samuel Satchell & Marthat Taylor is the correct
one.
Are you confused, I sure am!!!!!!!
Many thanks for all your help it certainly is much appreciated.
Satchwell
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Satchwell
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Hi George,
It's pesky me again from down under!
I have a birth/bp in Deddington for a Satchell which I think may be my family and would be pleased if you could check it out for me.
Richard Satchell b/bp 27 Feb 1736 or 1737.
Parent's may be Samuel Satchell & Martha Taylor who were married 26 Dec 1734 at Deddington. 
cheers,
Mel
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Frustrated Iban
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Morning Mel.
Great to hear from you again, always glad to help out so stop thinking you are 'pesky' - right then here we are.
Baptisms. Deddington.
27 Feb 1736/7, SATCHWELL, Richard, s/o Samuel & Martha.
10 Dec 1738. SATCHWELL (altered from SATCHELL), William, s/o Samuel & Martha.
6 Nov 1740, SATCHWELL, William & Martha (Twins) s & d of Samuel & Martha.
3 April 1743, SATCHWELL, Samuel, s/o Samuel & Martha.
Burials.
23 Apr 1740, SATCHWELL, William.
17 Dec 1740, SATCHWELL, William.
7 March 1750/51, SATCHWELL, Martha
There is no indication whether this Martha is a child or the wife as used to be the case in most other instances.
Nothing further found up to 1756 ( as yet - will have another looksee later today and advise accordingly) busy sorting greenhouse out.
Hope this is what you were looking for,
Cheers, Take care,
George.
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Satchwell
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Don't know how I missed that one in the past. Had all the others.
William Satchwell c 3/4/1743 is my gggggrandfather.
The spelling of the name has varied ovder the years. Some still use the Satchell although most are now Satchwell.
I believe the Martha buried 7/3/1750 was Samuel's wife as he married a Mary Hands 1854 Swaffield.
I still haven't decided which parent's are our Martha Taylor's.
There is a marriage at Deddington on 26/7/1822 of a John Satchell and Mary Bennett. Do you have any other details for this marriage i.e. parent's names?
With winter setting in are you tidying out the greenhouse after the summer growth or do you grow veges etc in there during the winter. We've had a particular cold winter so do hope you don't follow suit.
Regards and thanks, Mel
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Frustrated Iban
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Morning again Mel,
Not a great deal I am afraid - Deddington.
26 Jul 1822 SATCHELL X John
BENNET, Mary, b.o.t.p. By Banns.
Witnesses: George HARTLEY, Elizabeth SATCHELL
No trace of him in the Deddington Baptisms 1795 - 1805 despite the b.o.t.p.??
Will try working through some of my other local PRs to Deddington to see what if anything I may find.
Not cleaning up, installing one that has been given to me by a neighbour - will use it for seedlings/cuttings etc and over wintering for fuschias and geraniums etc. Last year we had a very severe winter, worst in forty years the locals told us, and lost all of our old stock - so am taking no chances this year.
Sorry cannot be of more help.
George.
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Satchwell
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Was worth a try. Perhaps Mary Bennett was born in Deddington and John came from further afield to marry her.
The only John Satchell I have on my tree thus far was ch. 29/3/1807 Dunstew and died 10/5/1825 aged 18 in Dunstew. Son of William Satchell & Mary Ox.
Thanks again.
Mel
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Frustrated Iban
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Morning Mel,
Further to your remark '...perhaps Mary BENNET was born in Deddington...'
I have found three Mary's in the potential time period who may or may not fit the bill!!
20 Nov 1795, BENNET, Mary d/o John and Ann.
4 Aug 1798, BENNETT, Mary, d/o Richard & Mary.
4 Nov 1798, BENNETT, Mary, d/o William & Elizabeth.
Would you like me to investigate any or all of these families??
Cheers,
George.
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Satchwell
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Hi George,
Sorry not to reply sooner, been a bad week, with 2 funerals and my husband's brother in hospital. They always say things come in threes.
If you wouldn't mind checking these for me I would much appreciate it. I will check out the 1841 census and see what I can find.
Regards,
Mel
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newburychap
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... listing the 'colours' captured at the Battle of Edge Hill 1648 by the Parliamentarian forces
Edge Hill 1648? Edgehill was fought in 1642, it was a 'draw' which has been adjudged to have ended with the Royalists in the better position - I'm surprised many 'colours' were captured by the Parliamentarians.
Did Robert Earle of Essex, Commander of the Parliamentary Forces at that time have any military or Indian connections? Robert Devereaux was the Earl of Essex, Parliament's top field commander until Thomas Fairfax took over that role on the creation of the New Model Army in 1645. Britain's Indian empire was a long way into the future at this time so contacts with India would have been very limited. The East India Company was pretty new and a relatively small concern, though a very profitable one I guess - a wealthy chap like the Earl of Essex could have been a shareholder. However, I suspect any brass elephants would have been introduced to the pub in the late C19th or later - Indian artifacts became all the rage when Victoria was made Empress of India (1877). About the same time, I suspect, that bars and bar rails were appearing in pubs.
Any links to John Satchell a brewer in Newbury, Berks?
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Frustrated Iban
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Hi there Newburychap,
I had begun to think that there were no historians on this thread - that was the date shown on the beam in question and despite raising the query 0n it with the hotel's staff not one of them had any ideas on it at all. In fact several of them had noted there was something inscribed on the beam but 'had never bothered to read it'.
I just wish I had been somewhat more careful when I took the photograph but must admit that I had considered I could 'always come back another time' - regretably circumstances prevent another occasion following the apparent refurbishment.
Re your query ''any links to John SATCHELL a brewer in Newbury, Berks' I am not doing the SATCHWELL/SATCHELL research for myself but for a lady in 'The Antipodes' but will ask her to re-read the correspondence pointing out the query.
Thanks for your interest anyway, take care.
George.
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