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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #15 on: Friday 09 January 09 11:44 UTC (UK) »

Morning Toni

I think most of the hotels in Eastbourne were built in the Georgian period when its role as a seaside town for the middle and upper classes began and the coming of the railway.  Around 1830s I guess.  I tried to find a website about the history of the Wish tower hotel but had no luck.

Kerry

modified - just read an article I downloaded ages ago from the Journal of Contemporary History about seaside development in Sussex which suggests that the Georgian resorts were developed between 1740 and 1830.
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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #16 on: Friday 09 January 09 13:07 UTC (UK) »

I have been making enquiries about Alexander (Soldier).

The Queen`s or 2nd Foot at that time was the Surrey Regiment.

I posted a letter to their Museum yesterday,so hopefully they may have some info about him.

Thank-you all

Omega  Smiley
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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #17 on: Friday 09 January 09 13:13 UTC (UK) »

Don't know for sure but reckon that area is 1870s devlopments , certainly not 1790s. On the Martello Tower site, there is an extract from the builders diary referring to it as Wishe Tower and there or elswhere on the site about it being marshlands so not really hotel area. P
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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #18 on: Friday 09 January 09 13:37 UTC (UK) »

I will phone Eastbourne Library next week,see if they can help.


My NOSE wont rest until i find out  Smiley

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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #19 on: Friday 09 January 09 14:41 UTC (UK) »

Another place for us to visit when it opens in April is
The Redoubt & Military Museum.

We are beginning to wonder if Alexander changed Regiments.

Not very well up on this subject.

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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #20 on: Friday 09 January 09 15:02 UTC (UK) »

The redoubt was started after the Martello. I think the old barracks were in the area  bounded by the A259 /Summerdown Rd/ Vicarage Dr in old town. I am sure I remember a plaque saying it was the old barracks then workhouse
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http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=50.77133~0.262122&style=h&lvl=17&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=7587148&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

Just noticed on the Martello website it states the  name Wish is a corruption of Wash as in marsh swamp and as in East Anglia.

Just realised it has Birds Eye view
http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=sfvqn7h0nhxw&style=b&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=7587112&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1

it is the building dead centre with curved wall in brick and high flint wall at the RH end
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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #21 on: Friday 09 January 09 15:34 UTC (UK) »

So the area could have been called Wish before the martello was even built, hence it being called Wish Tower!

Now we're rocking  Smiley  Be nice to confirm it though.  There was a lot of marsh around Eastbourne - Pevensey Marshes etc so it more than likely. 

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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #22 on: Friday 09 January 09 15:50 UTC (UK) »

I put into google

wish tower ground eastbourne.It`s seems to be where the Sovereign
Habour is.

The answer is somewhere.

Omega
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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #23 on: Friday 09 January 09 16:10 UTC (UK) »

wish tower ground eastbourne.It`s seems to be where the Sovereign
Habour is.

Omega
Which in some ways would make sense as The Crumbles (Sov Harbour area) was a troop training area. One thing I noticed is that you  refer to Hilsea Southampton it is in fact Portsmouth, and the other are you certain about 2nd Regt of Foot as although I can't find where they were in 1782 but not long after that they were a Maritime Regiment at sea Pete
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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #24 on: Friday 09 January 09 16:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi Pete

I have The Sussex Marriage Index CD.
I highlighted the marriage,right clicked & a box came up.This is where
i got the info about Alexander Riddle coming from Hillsey ,Southampton & that he was in the Queens or 2nd Foot.

Omega

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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 10 January 09 12:28 UTC (UK) »

Movements of 2nd Foot
1775 returned from Gibralter
1783 returned to Gibralter
1792 returned from Gibralter
2/1793 at Dover
1794-5 as Marines
1795-Nov 97 West Indies
1798 Ireland
1799 Helder Nederlands
1801 Egypt
1801-6 Gibralter
1806 Winchester

A second Battalion was formed in 1795 from the 1st and sent to Guernsey then to Sea, 1796 Martinique, disbanded 10/1797 and merged into 1st Bn .

I'm wondering if there is a typo in the records you found as there is a 2nd Sussex Volunteers , 2nd Surrey Militia &  2nd Regt of Foot Guards all around at that period
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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 10 January 09 12:38 UTC (UK) »

Thank-you Pete

Hopefully a reply from the Musuem wont take long.

One Obituary has lead me to more questions.Still it keeps the little old grey cells busy.This is only part of it.Will leave other searching till i sort this out.

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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 10 January 09 16:20 UTC (UK) »

Wish Tower Mound was formerly Beacon Hill according to Wards guide to Eastbourne, not dated but guessing 1925-30 Pete
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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 10 January 09 17:32 UTC (UK) »

I found Old Wish Road yesterday near the Wish Tower on the maps that Petmas put up.  I wonder if that was marshland once!

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Re: The Wish Tower,Eastbourne
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 10 January 09 17:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi Kerry & Pete

I will phone up Eastbourne Library on Tuesday.

Not thinking straight at the mo,woke up to cough & cold Sad

Thank-you for your interest.

Omega
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