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Topic: Rebekah (Rebecca) Jacobs (Read 845 times)
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'Trish'
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I have hit the brick wall and cant get over it!! I have the marriage certificate of Rebecca Winslow (aka Rebekah) she married John Jacobs Jul 2nd 1883 at Kennington London. She gave her home address as 14 Artillery Passage London (owned by Philip Jacobs) John's address was 2 Raymore Place, Heneage Street London. Her father was a William Winslow ( I have found him) and John's father was a Hyman Jacobs (I have found him) But the problem I have is in the childrens christening etc. I have got them in the 1891 (14 Thorparch Road, Battersea) and 1901 Census 87 Thorparch Road Battersea).
The Children are, Hyman b1884, Amelia b 1885, Katherine/a E. b1887, Edward 1891, John 1904, Florence H. 1893 (mother Olivia Winslow), Rose, L 1896 & Adelaide 1900.
I have already had a problem with Florence Henrietta Jacobs and finally found her birth but with mother's name Olivia Winslow & father's name John Jacobs. I have found several births but with either mother's name as Olivia/Lydia/Rebekah/Rebecca or father's name John/Jacob
I am hoping that by locating the birth of the children I might be able to find the mother's birth certficate. Estimating from Census: born 1862/1864 London City or Bishopsgate.
Is there anyone who could help? I have been trying to work this out for ny on 8 years and I am feeling absolutely cheesed off! Regards Pauline 
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lizdb
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So .. are all the children you have listed shown as sons/daughters of John and Rebecca on the 1891/01 censuses?
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lizdb
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Births are on FreeBMD - all Lambeth
Hyman Jan/Feb/Mar 1884 - 1d 496
Amelia Ap/May/Jun 1885 - 1d 427
Edward Aaron Jan/feb/Mar 1891 1d 360
Katherine Esther Jan/Feb/Mar 1887 1 d 480 (also wrongly indexed as 1d 180)
Adelaide May J/F/M 1900 1d 429
Rose Lydia J/A/S 1895 1d 341
several Florences in 1893 - any middle initial known?
also lots of other Jacobs' in Lambeth other than these , so plenty of families around
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avm228
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several Florences in 1893 - any middle initial known?
The original post says she was Florence Henrietta.
These names have a Jewish feel to me - I wonder whether "Rebecca" was a name assumed by John Jacobs' wife upon marriage in place of a non-Jewish forename.
Anna
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lizdb
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Not exactly what you are looking for - but I feel this family must fit in somewhere. Father is William (what is Rebecca/Olivia's dad's occ on marriage cert) and with child Adelaide, same as one of R/O's children ....
RG10 440 9 11
73 Long Alley Shoreditch
William Winslow 34 gas porter bn Shoreditch
Elizabeth wife 31 shoe binder bn Sditch
John 15 son bn City of London
Adelaide 9 bn S'ditch
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'Trish'
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I have the information on William Winslow of long Alley, that is her father. It is the problem trying to locate Rebecca (Rebekah) Jacobs nee Winslow. Yes the Jacobs line is Jewish from Poland found the Father Hyman at Hutchison Avenue, Shoreditch. Its been Rebecca thats the problem the only address I have is off the 1891 and 1901 Census. John's occupation Carman/Cab driver. But on marriage cert he is a Cordial makers Assistant, as with Rebecca on one census the birthplace is Bishopsgate (which would fall in with the rest of the family info) but on another 1901 its London City. Yes, all the names of the children come off the census. What I am trying to achieve is the names of the children and their date of birth and/or baptism, then the mother's birth certificate. I know that there was another Rebecca Jacobs which was John Jacobs's sister. I also have problem with John and locating his birth, yet again he seems to alter his name. Really lost and dont know which way to go.
John's father was Hyman Jacobs and his mother Henrietta friedman. Rebecca (John's wife) father William Winslow mother Elizabeth Hunt. As Rebecca was lodging at 14 Artillery Passage, and that was owned by Philip Jacobs, I thought there might be a connection there? This family has been an absolute nightmare! Regards Pauline
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Necromancer
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so essentially, you havent seen Reb* / Olivia with those parents William and Elizabeth on an earlier census ?
Looks like Lizdb's 1871 earlier might be key ..... the daughter Adelaide shown as born Shoreditch, has this Birth Entry ...
Births Jun 1862
WINSLOW Adelaide Anne Shoreditch v1c p100
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'Trish'
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No havent seem Rebecca on a census with her parents, only when she was married to John Jacobs. I have 1861 - 1891Census, but no Rebecca.
1861 Census 24 Half Moon Street Bishopsgate
William Winslow Head mar age 27 Labourer (Jobber) born Shoreditch
Elizabeth Winslow Wife mar age 23 Shoemaker born Shoreditch
Richard Winslow son 9m born Shoreditch
1871 Census 73 Long Alley Shoreditch
William Winslow Head mar age 38 gas porter born Shoreditch
Elizabeth Winslow ife marr age 31 Shoebinder born Shoreditch
John Winslow son 15 Riveller born City of London
Adelaide Winslow dau age 9 Scholar born Shoreditch
1881 Census 11 Hearn Street London Middlesex (2nd Marriage)
William Winslow Head Marr age 45 born Finsbury Middlesex Laboure Eng (Artz)
Mary Winslow wife Marr age 22 born Lincoln England
Mary A Winslow dau unm age 8 Shoreditch
Joseph Winslow son unm age 3 Shoreditch
William H Brownlow Lodger unm age 26 Shoreditch Marble polisher
1891 Census 11 Hearn Street London Middlesex
Thomas Keough So S 27 M Roller in Printing office born Shoreditch London
George Burden H Wi 44 Soap Packer and Carter born Arundel Sussex
Eva Priscilla Burden Dau S 17 F Button & Stud Maker born Arundel Sussex
John Burden Son S 14 M Book Binder Folder born Arundel Sussex
Ann Facey Wi 71 F Monthly Nurse, Sick born Shoreditch
William Winslow H M 57 M Labourer, Printing Machine maker, born Shoreditch London
Mary Winslow W M 56 F born Kelsey Lincolnshire
Mary Ann Winslow Dau D 19F Born Shoreditch London
Joseph Winslow So S 13 M Roller Labourer, Printing office. born Shoreditch London.
Its almost like she didnt want to be found! Thank you all for helping, I do appreciate all you help.
regards Pauline
Regards Pauline
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Necromancer
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sorry, added to my earlier post - see above, no new facts, only conjecture, that like Liz, wondering if Adelide is really Reb* / Olivia etc, using a more Jewish name ?
As Liz says, she did name a dau Adelaide in 1900 ....
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Looks like Anna and Liz above are saying the same thing ?
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Good thinking PJ - would there be a record of the Jewish marriage ceremony ?
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