airdman
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Hi,
I am trying to trace Harry Ladyman b1883, anyone able to help at all? He married Susannah Ruth Powell and had 3 children, Irene, Reginald and Theresa. I am stuck with Harry and went off on a tangent thinking I was looking for James!
Thanks,
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CaroleW
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
This 1891 entry for Steeple Claydon is not a great deal of help I'm afraid
James Ladyman 42 unmarried ag lab b Steeple C
Sarah E sister unmarried 50 b Steeple C
Emily 33 sister unmarried b Steeple C
Frederick W 13 nephew b Derby Summercoates
Florence R E 12 niece b Bucks
Harry 8 nephew b B Bucks
RG12; Piece: 1155; Folio 79; Page 11
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karenlee
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Hi airdman
Welcome to Rootschat, I am sure that you'll find lots of help here.
Firstly, I am not sure if you have any Census information for your Harry LADYMAN, so I have found what I think is the right person for you....
1891 Census England Buckinghamshire Steeple Claydon
RG12/1155/79/11
Church End
LADYMAN
James Head Marr 42 Agricultural Labourer Bucks Steeple Claydon
Sarah E Sister Marr 50 Bed Ridden Bucks Steeple Claydon
Emily Sister Unmarr 33 Housekeeper Bucks Steeple Claydon
Frederick W Nephew Unmarr 13 Agricultural Labourer Derby Summer Coates
Florence R E Neice Unmarr 12 Buckingham
Harry Nephew Unmarr 8 Scholar Buckingham
If Frederick, Florence and Harry are siblings, then I should be able to find the two eldest together in the 1881 Census.
Karenlee
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CaroleW
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In 1881, Florence Ladyman aged 3 is in the Union Workhouse in Bucks. There is also a 21 yr old Eliza Ladyman unmarried b Steeple Claydon in the same Workhouse
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CaroleW
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Births March qtr 1883
LADYMAN Harry Buckingham 3a 733
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karenlee
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OOOPPSS Sorry Carole.... snap. 
Karenlee
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CaroleW
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Hi Karen
No problem - Rootschat is taking ages to respond tonight hence overlap.
The 1901 has a Henry Ladyman aged 18 b Bucks in lodgings in Erdington Warwickshire occupation was bakers deliverer and carter
Marriages December qtr 1908
LADYMAN Harry Edmonton 3a 1019
POWELL Susannah Ruth Edmonton 3a 1019
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airdman
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Hi Carole and Karen,
Thanks for such a quick response! If the Harry (nephew in the 1891 census) is who I am looking for, then I can assume that I can then trace his maternal grandfather through his uncle he is staying with. His mother I am guessing is the unmarried sister in 1891 and also the one listed in the workhouse.
The only reference to Harry after 1891 I have seen is his marriage to my great gran Susannah Ruth Powell, I know he died in about 1919/20 of trauma caused by WW1 action, so my Dad says. I'll carry on looking at his uncles line when I am back from hols, thanks again for your help.
airdman
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CaroleW
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This is his death registration
Deaths September qtr 1918
Harry Ladyman aged 29 Edmonton 3a 516
However - that age puts a whole new light on things if it is the right Harry Ladyman as it puts his birthyear around 1888/1889
He would still have been old enough to marry in 1908
The first 2 children were b Edmonton - Teresa & Irene - but Reginald was registered in Wycombe in 1913
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airdman
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Hi,
That's definitely him but I can't find him on the 1891 census and have no idea where to go now. How about trying to get a copy of his birth cert? Would that have both parents names on it? With such a rare surname you would think I'd have no trouble tracing my family! The nearest seems the hardest to find!!
Thanks again
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airdman
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Thanks again for your help. I'll let you know how I get on. Excellent site by the way.
Regards,
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CaroleW
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This is the 1871 census for Steeple Claydon and for Eliza Ladyman - her siblings tie in with the 1891 entry
William Ladyman 61 carpenter - all b Steeple Claydon
Sarah 30
James 23
Mary 18
Emily 14
Eliza 11
Living next door is this Ladyman family - all b Steeple Claydon
Joshua 45 carpenter & wheelwright
Elizabeth 44
Edward J 22
Ann 19
William 17
Joseph 15
Elizabeth 9
Eliza Mary 7
Sarah 5
Caroline 3
Amy E 7 months
RG10; Piece: 1423; Folio: 110; Page: 13
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tazzie
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With his age at death being 29 so b @1888/1889 is it possible he is "another" Harry and not the Bucks born one?
Other Harrys born in those years..
William Harry Ladyman 1890 Wycombe
Harry Ladyman 1888 Birkenhead.
Harry Ladyman 1889 Hendon.
Do you have his marriage cert to Susannah? Who does it name as father or witnesses.
Tazzie
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Liscoe -all Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks. Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London Rewallin/Underwood -Devon Casbolt-London/Cambridge Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds This information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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airdman
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I don't have a marriage cert, but he must be the 1889 Harry as his death ties in with known family events and his children are correct. Just noticed an entry on the 1901 census for him aged 12 living in Shoreditch. Still no family details though!
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