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1851 Census Lookup Please
« on: Wednesday 09 February 05 20:15 GMT (UK) »

I'm looking for:

Elizabeth HONEY - aged about 76 or so in St. Keyne

Her marital status would be widowed.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: 1851 Census Lookup Please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 February 05 09:36 GMT (UK) »

OOOHHHHHHH Kiya  Wink We would be talking about Elizabeth Hancock b 4 Apt 1775 St Keyne married Thomas Honey 3 Oct 1796 St Keyne  Grin At Least 11 children  Grin  Grin  Grin

1851 Census (Still living with Richard)

HO107/1902 Folio 431 Page 12
St Keyne

HONEY Richard Head 36 b St Keyne Labourer
HONEY Rebecca Wife 35 b St Keyne
HONEY Elizabeth Dau 14 b St Keyne
HONEY Ann Dau 11 b St Keyne
HONEY Jane Dau 7 b St Keyne
HONEY Richard Son 5 b St Keyne
HONEY Rebecca Dau 3 b St Keyne
HONEY John Son 1 b St Keyne
HONEY Elizabeth Mother 75 b St Keyne Labourers Mother

What do you know? My interest.... Thomas and Elizabeths Son William  Grin

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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 February 05 10:16 GMT (UK) »

No way?! Shocked Thomas and Elizabeth are my great x4 grandparents!

Thanks so much for the info - I'm currently trying to research the Honey family, as I have a photo of my great grandmother, Eva Cook nee Honey.

I'm descended through Thomas and Elizabeth's son Samuel (born c.1798).

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 February 05 11:10 GMT (UK) »

Amazing..I do not have the blood...lol...but my kids and grandkids most surely do...Thomas and Elizabeth are my childrens 5grandparents  Grin Kris  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 February 05 14:23 GMT (UK) »

LOL Kiya im  sitting here at near 1 am still looking adding the census details I did 4 u some time back on Thomas when it didnt click he was a part of my Honeys  Roll Eyes ....Small world ehh....I didnt have Thomas down as one of Samuels so I didnt twig to it...Kris   Grin
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 February 05 15:28 GMT (UK) »

Yep, definitely a small world!  Thanks again!  Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 February 05 15:31 GMT (UK) »

Have you gotten back any further than Thomas and Elizabeth... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 February 05 16:08 GMT (UK) »

No further on Thomas' side, no.

I believe Elizabeth's parents to have been John Handcock and Ann Hickes, who married on 20 April 1763 in St. Keyne - but I haven't been able to check this yet.
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 February 05 16:15 GMT (UK) »

Same Here Kiya plenty of Honeys about the area probably brothers but I dont know who the parents r...Same with Elizabeth I have the same and nothing further on the Hancocks either Ann Hicks 23 Oct 1847 st Germans to Matthew and Ann...Kris
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 23 July 08 12:07 BST (UK) »

Thomas Honey and Elizabeth Handcock were my ggg grandparents and I am descended from their last son Richard. Could we compare notes?
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 24 July 08 01:02 BST (UK) »

Hi kjo,

A big welcome to RootsChat and the Cornwall board.  Grin

Lovely to meet another descendant. Would love to chat further about the family. Have not talked HONEY in some time. Happy to help in any way I can. I have your Richard and his family listed. - I have his 2 wives and at least 10 children. Our line is from his brother William who married Frances HILL.

I have not progressed with their ancestry, nor to my knowledge have other descendants. Dad Thomas did not make the census to give a clue as to where he was born. He was buried 6 June 1841 St Keyne aged 68 years so appears to have been born around 1773 though with a death record nothing is certain as he did not provide the age himself. Elizabeth was baptised 1775.

Cheers Kris  Cheesy
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Re: 1851 Census Lookup Please
« Reply #11 on: Friday 25 July 08 16:03 BST (UK) »

I have two possible Thomas Honeys but there might be more. Assuming nobody moved too far:
1. baptised 21 Sep 1772 at St Cleer, parents William Honey and Prudence Keet, both born about 1749?
2. baptised 8 Feb 1773 at St Cleer, parents Thomas Honey and Elizabeth Parkin.
St Cleer is only just over 4 miles from St Keyne, so these are both possibles. Note that William and Prudence had another Thomas baptised 22 Jun 1777 so it is possble that Thomas (1) died as a young child. If so, Thomas (2) would be the front runner.
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 26 July 08 01:28 BST (UK) »

Hi kjo,

Our Thomas does not appear to have been born in St Keyne so anywhere nearby is likely.  Grin

I have this Thomas Logged as a possible. (Unproven) Born at the right time and in the right area. There just does not appear to be a better candidate although this Thomas may have stayed in St Cleer. This Thomas - father Thomas of 1773 appears to have been baptised St Cleer 24 Sep 1736 to Thomas and Mary. From here I suspect this may have been Thomas HONEY = Mary KEAST 17 May 1733 Duloe (Also in the same area)

Sorry to say my dubious side  notes a marriage in St Cleer of Thomas HONEY husbandman = Elizabeth BRAY 13 Dec 1807 and children b St Cleer to this Thomas and Elizabeth at the same time as our couple are having their family in St Keyne. Unfortunately neither used the name Prudence for their children. The St Cleer one did use Mary. I think this St Cleer Elizabeth may have died 1813. Can't pinpoint Thomas in 1841 nor a death to 1837. There is an elderly Thomas in St Cleer in 1841 wife Mary. He is 80 so neither of these you mention. This couple had a son Thomas in 1802 and with one listed as Sen and the other Jun in 1841 looks like them. Thomas HONEY = Mary DANIEL 20 May 1789. Lots of Honeys about St Cleer  Roll Eyes

Cheers Kris  Cheesy
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 26 July 08 03:31 BST (UK) »

Hi again kjo,

You have got me going again on the Honey's which is great - always good to discuss possibilities. My earlier post was my thoughts taken from my Thomas notes. I have been sitting here reflecting on this. Now given the burial of Elizabeth in 1813 where I noted she was only 26 I began to wonder if this Thomas may have been another Thomas - possibly a younger man and yes I think that may be the case and if that is so he can be ruled out.  Grin

There is a Thomas bap St Cleer 2 Sep 1786 to John and Elizabeth. Now if this younger chap was the man who married in 1807 he may actually still be in St Cleer aged 55 with a wife Mary in 1841 - I had not thought to look for a younger man to explain this 1807 marriage.

I now see Thomas HONY = Mary Ann JORY 22 Jun 1815 St Cleer. Can't tell his status from the entry but looks promising, given Elizabeths death in 1813.

1873 is certainly looking the most promising. I note William and Prudence seemed to move about quite a lot with births in St Cleer, Sheviock, Antony and lastly Maker. From the Rame website http://www.stoneyburn.ca/OPC_Web/index.php
I see Thomas presumably 1772 died in 1774 in Sheviock which fits with the Sheviock Burials.

Cheers Kris  Cheesy
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