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Topic: Pettigrove/Frost/Lee/Rossiter/Hills (Read 1262 times)
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PAILMAKER
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I would be grateful of any help regarding the above families. They were mainly travelling showmen (or related to them). I have my Grand Mother - Druscilla Pettigrove - as daughter of Richard Pettigrove and Mary Ann (Polly) Lee.
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PAILMAKER
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Thanks for your help, I will have a look and see what else I can find 
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appletree
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Hi Spursbird,
I am related to the Yelding family but don't know if it is the same one, My grandfather was Mark Yelding born in 1910 and his parents were John Yelding sometimes known as Jack and Priscilla Lee, They married in 1900 but last name was spelt wrong Yielding on marriage cert.
I would love to find out more about that side of my family as Me and my Mum have started to trace the family tree, My Mum always thought that the Yelding's were gypsies but when trying to trace them people do not know the Yelding name as travellers, so it would make more sence if they were showmen.
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casalguidi
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Hi Appletree
This could be them in the 1891 census at Mitcham in Surrey
John HALDEN head mar 28 cutler b.Ramsgate Kent
Priscilla wife 25 b.Chatham Kent
Emily dau 5 b.Greenwich Kent
John son 3 b.Dulwich Surrey
Bella dau 7m b.Packham Wood Kent
RG12/601 folio 14 page 37
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This family appear to be on the 1911 census (YEALDING in Croydon) but you will need to pay to see the details http://www.1911census.co.uk/
Do you have a copy of John and Priscilla's marriage to give, hopefully, the names and occupations of their respective fathers?
Many of the YELDINGs (and variants) later became HILDENs - they sound very similar with a silent "H" and there were YELDINGs in/from Kent (now HILDENs) who were travellers (not showmen). I think your mum is right - mention the name HILDEN to any Kentish travelling family and they will recognise it 
Casalguidi
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appletree
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Hi Casalguidi,
Thank you very much for the information I had a look on the 1911 census and they are my family . The family name is spelt Yelding now.
Thank you once again Appletree
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rebekahm28
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Jacob 'Coco' Rossiter and Mariah Pettigrove are in my tree. Im in touch with their granddaughter. Coco and Riah's son in law is related to me. Do any photos exist?
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Beswick, Roberts, Sladen, Astell, England, Mander, Osborne, Krilovs, Elliott, Brooks, Wilkins, Markham, Raven, Mycock, Johnson, Woodrow, Perry, Overton, Rollings, Seeney, Durber, Kirkbright, Charley, Cleaver, Wilkes, Cotton, Olds, Waine, Evans, Gilbert, Grisold, Price, Wheelhouse. Gypsy: Roberts, Ripley, Beeney, Smith, Eggerton.
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rebekahm28
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Theres no hurry, Id appreciate anything but only as and when you can. Ive been working on that line (Riah and Coco) only for about 6 months, but I have the parents, grandparents, children etc. Am fascinated with this family! Coco's son in law is still alive, he was very helpful. Spursbird, are you Rita? I saw your post on Romany Roots but I dont use that site now, too much silliness and nastiness from some people.
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Beswick, Roberts, Sladen, Astell, England, Mander, Osborne, Krilovs, Elliott, Brooks, Wilkins, Markham, Raven, Mycock, Johnson, Woodrow, Perry, Overton, Rollings, Seeney, Durber, Kirkbright, Charley, Cleaver, Wilkes, Cotton, Olds, Waine, Evans, Gilbert, Grisold, Price, Wheelhouse. Gypsy: Roberts, Ripley, Beeney, Smith, Eggerton.
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Spursbird
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Yes its me Spursbird......I have the family back to late 1700's. Maria and Jacob married on 13th Sep 1921 - the 13th is my son's birthday. I was at school with several of the gchildren. My Dad was Bill (William) Pettigrove. Will be able to help you loads - just look up me as Rita Pettigrove Circus Ashford in a google search and private email me.
Have a great memory of Joacob and Ria. We all went out in the lorry to Seasalter - near to Faversahm. Dad drove with Nan and GDad Pettigrove - my Mum Rita and cousin Dick Byng. He was brought up by my GParents....cant remember if my sister was born then (she was born in Sep 1965 - me in Feb 1958)
We went looking for cockles - put them in an old enamel bath and brought them home to my Gparent bungalow. Then over a fire boiled them. Have a photo of them all sitting in the back garden eating them but Jo has it......Also Ria was so stunning when she was young. Have been in touch with D....... for a few years and she has sent me some photos. I have found Rias Mums Grave (Polly aka Mary Ann Lee)in Ashford - from Nov 1918. She has her GDaughter on top of her too. GDad George came back from WWI to find his Mum had just died. There is nothing with her name on it and I do hope to put something onto it with her details. Richard was buried as Richard Frost (long story) and he is at Ashford too. Ria and Jocob I believe are at Charing Crem....
Bit morbid but brought up as a traveller I have been going to funerals since I was a little girl and love to go to the old graves when I find them.
My GDad Geroge Pettigrove and my Nan are related......its legal to marry yr cousin but they are not 1st cousins. A Baker sister and brother married a Lee sister and brother and this resulted in William Baker who was my Nans Dad. The Lee marriage resulted Polly lee who was my Gdads mother and also Ria's.....follow this.......another sister Ruth Baker married .....Thomas ROSSITER b 1847 Berthersden, Dover, Kent married Ruth BAKER b 1850 Stelling Minnis, Folkestone, Kent**Baker Line - see above- daughter of John BAKER and Mercy Lee at St, Gergory, Canterbury, Kent Thomas was a Genreal Dealer.
Now:Census 1881
Tent, Thomas Rd, Sittingbourne, Kent
Thomas ROSSITER M 30 M Bethersden, Kent, Head, Hawker
Ruth ROSSITER M 28 F Folkestone, Kent, Wife **Baker - see above
Thomas ROSSITER 12 M Dover, Kent, Son
Naomi ROSSITER 9 F Ashford, Kent, Daur (S)
Walter ROSSITER 7 M Dover, Kent, Son
Barbary ROSSITER 5 F Ashford, Kent, Daur, (S)
Stephen ROSSITER 2 M Sittingbourne, Kent, Son
Eliza BAKER 14 F Ashford, Kent, Sister In Law **Not myGMother - see above
Caravans, Thomas Rd, Sittingbourne, Kent
George BAKER M 22 M Willesborough, Kent, Head Hawker **Baker Line - see above
Jemima BAKER M 22 F Harvent, Hampshire, Wife
John MURPHETT (BAKER) 13 M Canterbury, Kent, Adopted Son
John BAKER M 57 M Head, Hawker (Brushes Etc) **My direct Baker Line - see above
Mercy BAKER M 56 F Wife, Hawker **My direct Baker Line
William HARRIS M 28 M Head General Dealer
Elizabeth HARRIS M 28 F Sheerness, Kent, Wife
George HARRIS 9 M Sheerness, Kent, Son
Homey HARRIS 2 M Sittingbourne, Kent, Son
James ROSSITER M 40 M Milton, Kent, Head, Hawker (Brushes Etc)
Susan ROSSITER M 22 F Borough, Middlesex, Wife, Hawker
James ROSSITER 16 M Ramsgate, Kent, Son, Hawker
Jacob ROSSITER M 22 M Maidstone, Kent, Head, Hawker (Brushes Etc)****Not Rias Jacob born too early for that
Abby ROSSITER M 21 F Chatham, Kent, Wife, Hawker
Carry ROSSITER 4 F Bidelington, Kent, Daur
Caravans, Cowper Rd, Sittingbourne, Kent
William STONE M 57 M Head, Brickfield Lab
Mary STONE M 53 F Cranbrook, Kent, Wife
Walter STONE 17 M Son Brickfield Lab
Albert STONE 15 M Romford, Essex, Son Brickfield Lab
Ceclia STONE 12 F Chilham, Kent, Daur
Thomas GOLDSMITH U 32 M Faversham, Kent, Head, Dealer General
Eliza ROBERTS M 30 F Stockbury, Kent, Serv, Caravan Keeper
Sarah ROBERTS 2 F Sittingbourne, Kent, Serv Daur
Manuel BEANY M 24 M Lindfield, Surrey, Head, Brickfield Carter
Mary A. BEANY M 20 F Loose, Kent, Wife
Belsher BEANY 2 M Sittingbourne, Kent, Son
Sarah JONES W 72 F Lenham, Kent, Head
John BAKER M 40 M Head General Dealer **Baker Line - see above
Elizabeth BAKER M 38 F Wife
Rueben BAKER 8 M Sittingbourn, Kent, Son
George BAKER
Haahaa.......so James and Thomas Rossiter being brothers?
Eliza Baker and George Pettigrove had FOUR Grt GParents. Most people have EIGHT.... Have I lots for you!!!! I also have info on the Rossiters back before this and I believe that the Lees/Bakers/ Rossiters also related in the same way as my Gparents - as removed cousins.
Where do u live?? How are you related to them?
Also I have most of the Rossiter family but would love to have yr details on this also
Keep in touch
Rita
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Pettigrove. - any area and country.
Lee. Gypsy - Kent area .
Yelding.Hornby.Frost. Fossett,Travelling showmen and circus connections.
Adams.Tomlin.Penfold.Rossiter. Baker.Keefe.Allen my Kent connections.
Baker - Canterbury
Tanner. Eastbourne and Horsham area.
Rout . Brighton
Whitehead- Burnley Lancs.
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