jwyrick
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I am looking for Sinclair relatives supposedly buried in the St. Niniancs Churchyard.
John Sinclair born about 1796 died 12-23-1856 shows buried in St. Ninians churchyard.
his wife Margaret (?bennett) born about 1796 died between 1841 and 1851
their daughter Ann born 5-5-1824 died ?after 1841
any help or guidance greatly appreciated!
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aghadowey
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Have locked other thread with this request to avoid duplication and confusion. Meanwhile, perhaps you could let us know where in Scotland St. Ninian's is so we might find information or suggest where you could search next.
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jwyrick
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Thanks for the help - I am new to this site and am learning to navigate it. St Ninians is near Bannockburn in the county of Stirling.
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jwyrick
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Thanks for the pictures and information. I will send an email to the Stirling Council.
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apanderson
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According to the pre-1855 MI Book for East Stirlingshire, there are 2 stones in the Churchyard to Sinclairs but not the ones you've mentioned.
Listed is:
1.
1851
William Sinclair and Agnes Christie (most likely his wife)
and next to the above
2.
W S A C (probably William Sinclair and Agnes Christie)
There are a further 26 stones similar to No. 2 (above) which only bear sets of initials (The surname could be anything beginning with S), but none of them have either I S or J S and an M ?.
(The letters I is quite often used instead of J).
This doesn't mean they aren't buried there, simply that there isn't a stone.
There are however, 2 Sinclair stones in Holy Rude Churchyard, they are:
1.
John Sinclair died August 1864
Mary Robertson his wife died February 1865
Son John died 9.11.1920 age 66
His wife Helen Miller died 19.6.1940 age 80
Thomas Robertson Sinclair, M.B., Ch.B., died 10.4.1929 age 40
John Sinclair died 3.3.1960
His wife Agnes Paxton died 1.3.1961
William Miller died 6.2.1896 age 57
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Duncan Sinclair died b. 9.7.1806, d. 15.2.1883
Flora Duncan Sinclair b. 16.9.1846, d. 17.2.1847
Janet Brown Sinclair b. 18.11.1818, d. 8.1.1876
John Sinclair b. 23.9.1849, d 27.1.1874
Janet Sinclair b. 25.6.1856, d. 26.6.1874
Ann Boyd Sinclair b. 10.08.1853, d. 10.3.1876
Charlotte Campbell b.4.9.1842, d. 25.12.1907
Annie Campbell Jack b. 3.5.1878, d. 3.5.1936
James Simpson Jack b. 31.12.1877, d. 14.2.1950
Erected by grandson John McIntosh Sinclair aged 71 in 1942
These MI's are all abbreviated so in the case of No. 2 (above) it's very difficult to figure out the relationships between the Sinclairs, Jacks and Campbells
Anne.
P.S. I also checked St. Ninian's New Churchyard (which surrounds the Church) but there's no Sinclair stones listed there either.
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jwyrick
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Thanks for the info. I do have John Sinclairs death record which shows he died 12-23-1861 and that he is buried in the St. Ninians Churchyard. You are probably right that there just isn't a grave marker ( I have run into this before). I will look into the other Sinclairs info that you have provided, maybe they are related. Thanks so much for your help!
Joanne
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jwyrick
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oops! the death date for John Sinclair in the previous post should be 12-23-1856. Thanks
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andycand
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Hi
I think the St Ninians old cemetery burial register is at the Stirling Achives. I'm sure thats were I looked up the details of my gggrandfather who died in 1855. I was told a few years ago that it was the watchtower that was the danger but if I contacted the council I may be able to be escorted to the grave. I was thinking of sneaking in through an unlocked gate (and pretending that I was a lost Australian) but council workman were sitting in a truck just outside it eating lunch.
Andy
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apanderson
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LOL Andy!! 
If you contact Viewforth, they'll give you the key to get in.
Just between us friends . . . . . . . it's quite easy to climb over the dyke at the back of the Churchyard (Fergie's 2nd picture) at it's lowest part.
There's a wee metal fence on top of the wall but all that does it make it easier to haul yourself up!
The front gate (in Fergie's 1st picture beside the red car) is never open - but just now and again, the other one is left open - probably when the workies have been doing maintenance of some sort and can't be bothered locking up when they've done. Mind you, what maintenance they do is beyond me - during the summer the grass is about three feet high. Maybe, as you said, they use it as a picnic area - quite scenic!
Anne
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robertd19m
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Apologies for butting into this thread but if Anne is looking in I wonder if she would be good enough to search the MI's and advise if any of the stones bear the names Eadie, Pollock or Dick.
I too have been outside the churchyard but did not fancy the climb over the dyke into the long grass. Thank you for advising of the shortcut. Good photos.
RobertD
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apanderson
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Here I am Robert!
The details from the pre-1855 are abbreviated so sometimes it's duifficult to figure out who's who, but the following are the stones which are listed:
DICK
1.
1828 Robert Dick (Flesher in St. Ninians) died 24.05.1809 age 60
2.
John Dick (in) Craigengelt?
3.
Andrew Richardson (Heritor) & Feuar, Stirling
His wife Marion Dick died at Craigs, Stirling 02.09.1850 aged 56?
EADIE
1. (On Wall)
1732 J P J C
William Paterson died 31.05.1877 age 80
His wife Mary Eadie died 29.11.1881 age 83
James Paterson died 27.12.1920 age 66
His wife Mary Chalmers died 08.11.1928
Children
Lizzie died 29.05.1893 age 12 years 8 months
Mary died 28.09.1893 age 8
POLLOCK
1.
David Pollock & Grace Hutton
Their son David died 06.05.1843 age 9
Their children
Grace died 12.05.1838
William died 18.05.1843
David died 19.05.1852
Marion died 05.09.1856
2.
1796 William Ker
Isobel Pollock
The above stones are (were) in the Old Churchyard so unfortunately, a wee dyke will have to be climbed - but now that you know 'the shortcut' . . . . . . . 
There are/were no stones for any of these names in the New Churchyard.
Anne
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robertd19m
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Anne
Thank you very much for the quick response and the information within. This will give me something to ponder over.
Cheers
Robert
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daval57
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Anne (or anyone else out there),
You've possibly already looked for me but I have no record of it.
Are there any MI's for Forrest in St Ninians?
I've got details of Forrests being christened and married in St Ninians from the 17th century to much more recently.
Thanks,
Dave
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/ |
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apanderson
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Hi Dave - do you want to follow the male Forrests or do you want them all - the female Forrests (& spouses) too?
Until I hear back from you, the following is the only male Forrest in St. Ninian's Old:
(Double grey granite stone)
Archibald Forrest in Charterhall
Wife Helen Smith died 18.11.1860 age 78
Son William born 13.3.1801, died 23.6.1884
Daughter Jean born 28.10.1803, died 18.6.1838 (wife of James Ronald, son James died in infancy)
James E. R., Civil Engineer & Architect died 11.4.1924
Wife Robina Martin died 7.8.1928
Anne.
P.S. There are no Forrests listed at all in the New Churchyard.
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