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Moonstar36
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Philip and James Ross
« on: Thursday 15 January 09 21:32 UTC (UK) »
Hello, Can anyone help me find Philip (1835) and james his brother (1839) and Lilly (!843) Ross, they were the children of Lily Munro and Peter Ross. Peter married later to a Margaret Bain and they had one child Isabella, the latter is my great grandmother. However, I am trying to find Peter's parents and the children of his first marriage. Rosskeen and Fearn seem to be the two places they all lived...although Isabella left at some point between 1851 and 61 and eventually made her way down to York.

Thanks!!

any help please...
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CaroleW
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Re: Philip and James Ross
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 January 09 21:55 UTC (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

1841 census for Balintore (address) Fearn Ross & Cromarty

Peter Ross 30 - occ = tailor
Lilly 32
Philip 6
James 2
Fearn; ED: 5; Page:  13; Line: 1240

1851 for Rosskeen -  Saltburn

Peter Ross 50 b Fearn occ tailor
Margaret 48 b Kilmuir
Lilly 7 b Fearn
Rosskeen; ED: 2; Page:  18; Line: 2

1851 for Edderton - age fits but not birthplace.  All shown as b Edderton.  The McPhersons were brother and sisters

William McPherson 24 
Christina McPherson 17 
Alexandrina McPherson 14 
Philip Ross 15 cousin - occ cowherd
Edderton; ED: 2; Page:  6; Line: 8


1851 for  Tain  -  Farms of Helton & Aldie 

Alexander Ross 60  b Fearn farmer of 16 acres
Isabella Ross 56  b Fearn
Bell Ross 18 dtr  b Rosskeen
James Ross 14  servant b Edderton
Tain; ED: 4A; Page:  1; Line: 12
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Re: Philip and James Ross
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 January 09 18:52 UTC (UK) »
Thank you so much!
Being new to this please tell me what do I do to find this info...I search on Scotlands People but cant find the info...is there another site that I can use to get started and then go back to verify info??

As to the birthplace being different its very possible that edderton is right as Lily was Peters first wife...he may then have moved and hence why his next child Isabella was born at Fearn.

This is brilliant, thank you!

Linda Smiley
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Re: Philip and James Ross
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 January 09 19:15 UTC (UK) »
Hi Linda

I use www.ancestry.co.uk which is a subscription site

Here they are on the 1861 - still in Rosskeen

Peter Ross 60  b Fearn - now an agricultural labourer
Margaret   54 b Kilmuir
Isabella  8  b Rosskeen
Rosskeen; ED: 5; Page:  5; Line: 22
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Re: Philip and James Ross
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 January 09 19:30 UTC (UK) »
This is a possibility for James Ross   

1861 for County Rd Logie Easter Ross  & Cromarty

Alexander Ross 61  b Rosskeen - saw miller
Lillias Ross 55  b Kilmuir
St John Ross 15  b Rosskeen
Williamina Ross 17  b Rosskeen
Alexandria Ross 13  b Logie
James Ross 23  b Fearn son in law - journeyman carpenter
Lillias Ross 19  daughter (could be wife of James) b Alness
Logie Easter; ED: 1; Page:  6; Line: 7
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Re: Philip and James Ross
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 January 09 13:24 UTC (UK) »
Hi Carole, A mine of information...this is wonderful...oh it does seem a possibility for James but....strange that the people he is with are also called Ross...although I do appreciate there are a lot in the immediate area....another avneu to research now... Smiley

Thanks for the info about the one you use...shall get joined up...

was looking at getting some family tree software...can I ask on the forum and where should I put the question as to asking for opinions on what people use?? what do you use??

I am getting so hooked on this subject...did have a try some years ago but that was when the internet didn't offer as much as it does today..and would mean traipsing round the country...went to St Catherine's house a few times...but pandemonium there with loads of people all scurrying around pulling out all the black book's...although it was enjoyable in one way....I must admit I prefer this method of searching at least your not run of your feet when you go down the wrong alley!! Wink
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Re: Philip and James Ross
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 January 09 13:47 UTC (UK) »
Hi

I have always used Family Tree Maker as I find it a very easy programme to use.  I have upgraded as new versions become available but find that the 2005 version currently meets all my needs

There are later versions but you can pick up the 2005 version for about £10 online
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Re: Philip and James Ross
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 January 09 13:53 UTC (UK) »
I have just found a Philip Ross b 1836 Scotland (unmarried) working as a groom for the Blinkinsop family (lawyer) in Walton on Thames Surrey in 1861
RG9; Piece: 421; Folio: 48; Page: 37

I'll check later censuses to see if it gives a more specific birthplace
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Re: Philip and James Ross
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 January 09 14:40 UTC (UK) »
well thats interesting as Peter's second wife Margaret ahd a daughter called Isabella born about 1853 and she moved to York but dont know when,assume after Peter died in 1870...as she married a Henry Palfreeman in 1876...
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Re: Philip and James Ross
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 18 January 09 19:19 UTC (UK) »
I think Philip died in 1863.  There is nothing on the 1871 for England or Scotland

Deaths March qtr 1863   

Philip ROSS      Chertsey  2a 17

I have checked the 1861 again and the Philip Ross b Scotland was the only one of that name in Surrey

Chertsey registration district covered the Walton on Thames area which is where that Philip Ross was living in 1861
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Re: Philip and James Ross
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 18 January 09 20:39 UTC (UK) »
oh wow! no where is this leaving me...another avenue...an interesting one...and many thanks for this Carole!...I just wish I could find these things...I have spent today searching for different things and I get nowhere...is there something I am missing when I do it?....thank goodness for people like you..I read through some of the other posts and have begun to realize this is really quite a complex subject and there are ways to do it and a few good people who are able to do it...well...nevertheless I am still enjoying it and aiming to do better!
Thank you Carole!
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