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Topic: Golspie Donald McKenzie married Catherine Munro...son Alexander 1826 to Australi (Read 1037 times)
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Rap
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Hi...I've just found the names of the parents of my gggrandfather, Alexander McKenzie who was born in 1826 in Golspie, Sutherland. Alexander's death certificate names his father as Donald McKenzie and his mother as Catherine Munro. Alexander and his wife, Margaret Jane Tully migrated to Australia in 1855, where some of their children were born around the Bacchus Marsh area near Melbourne. I would love to know of the siblings of Alexander, or any of the family of Donald or Catherine.
Any help would be just wonderful.
Warmest wishes
Rap
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Rap
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Hello,
Many thanks for responding to my posting...I took your advice and had a look at the beautiful photos of Loth and Kildonan...where my McKenzie family originated. The Loth church is just wonderful, isn't it?......I put it into full screen and sat looking at the portal, trying to imagine Alexander and his new bride Margaret walk through those doors! I live in southern Victoria on the coast (down the right-hand bottom side of the continent) and was born on Phillip Island....I can't believe how like the Victorian countryside, Sutherland is...well, apart from the stone fences, you would think that Loth was southern Victoria as they share the same undulated hills, paddocks, and rural scenery. Maybe the early pioneers were lured here to Australia with the promise of it being 'just like home'.....although I don't think that the winter temperatures would be similar....a winter here is cold if it's 5 degs. and we only get snow more north in the Victorian Alpine areas. I also enjoyed seeing the graveyards of Kildonan, as many of the McKenzies lived around that area...so I'm guessing that through the ages, some have been buried there. Scotland and Ireland are on my 'to do' list when our children are finished school, and we can begin to travel again. I'd love to see where my ancestors came from and do a little more 'digging' for church records!
I've found the death place of Alexander 1826, and have located his grave. I know that it may seem a little silly, but I've downloaded a print of the Loth Church, and when we travel to find his resting place, I intend to leave the picture along with some flowers.....a little bit of 'home' for his poor soul!
Many kind thanks for your time and interest: it's much appreciated.
Rosie.
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redgum
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Hi Rap,
I also have McKenzies, but from Assynt Sutherland, in my tree and I can not recommend highly enough the Sutherland group.
www.countysutherland.co.uk
It has a fantastic wealth of information.
There are two mailing lists
County Sutherland and Australia to Sutherland
It is worth joining both and everyone is so willing to help.
To view the burial grounds records complete with headstone photos , there is a small, once only fee. These records have been invaluable for me.
You never know we may find our McKenzies are connected.
Best Wishes
Robyn
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SCOTLAND
Macdonald, Buchan, Stuart, McCook -Angus/ Aberdeenshire
McLeod, McKenzie- Sutherland
IRELAND
McIlhagga, Craig - Antrim
ENGLAND
Stone, Murch, Ireland, Austin, Perryman - Devon
Holder, Robinson -Warwickshire/Staffordshire
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Rap
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Hello Robyn,
Many thanks for those leads....I'll certainly have a look at this site...seems to be just what I've been looking for.!! I have been fortunate to have help offered from many different sources...it would be wonderful to find that last missing piece!...and yes, I'm sure that somewhere in the past, all of the McKenzie Clan are of the same!
Best wishes Robyn, and thanks!!.
Rap.
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aspin
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Hi Rap and Robyn
My maiden name is McKenzie yes and my family come from Loth and Helmsdale
We were just up there in September and passed through Loth not much there
I did ask my hubby to stop and as we were with another couple and they were talking he drove right through without me getting a picture
My Alexander McKenzie married Ann Poulson sometime before 1800
their son Alexander b 1811 married Janet McKay Gordon
Their son Adam b 1853 married Isabella Birnie Watson
Their son James b 1878 Dunedin N/Z married ( back in England ) Mary Jane Black
My Dad Joseph b 1908
then down to me
Elizabeth
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McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,South Shields.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns ,Scotland.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland.and Starks Berwick.Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth
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Rap
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Hello Elizabeth....lovely to hear from you!
I'm sure that we have a connection here with our McKenzie lines somewhere!....I'm afraid that I haven't been able to establish much of my McKenzie line back in Loth and Kildonan, apart from my gggrandfather Alexander b 1826 and married Margaret Jane Tully b1925...they married at Loth in 1854...I've seen a photo of the church, and it looks wonderful! All I know I'm afraid is that, from Alexander's DC, his father was Donald, and mother Catherine nee Munro, birthplace Golspie....so it's quite likely that your line fits in here somewhere...how, I have no idea at this stage. Do you know of any registrations for births in the Sutherland area Elizabeth?. I'm sure that my Alexander had siblings, and Donald as well....is there any place that you can suggest to look to find this family?
It would be wonderful to put all of this together Elizabeth, wouldn't it?
Best wishes
Rap.
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aspin
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Hi Rap,
I was lucky my grt grandparent marriage certificate was in a bag with a load of photos .They married in Pitsligo Scotland and on the certificates in Scotland you get the parents name and the mothers maiden name
We were up there in September and in Helmsdale there is a timespan you may get help from there
e-mail address enquiries@timespan.org.uk
Give it a try
Elizabeth
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McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,South Shields.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns ,Scotland.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland.and Starks Berwick.Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth
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aspin
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Sorry to add you can Google Timespan Helmsdale and have a look through there
Elizabeth
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McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,South Shields.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns ,Scotland.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland.and Starks Berwick.Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth
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Rap
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Thankyou so much Firthview for finding the siblings of my Alexander!!!.....I never thought that I would ever have any hope of finding them! Are births in Scotland this early actually recorded somewhere?...or do you have a secret insight (like a friend in records?) I know that records here in Aust really don't go earlier than 1837...and my search for early dates in Ireland have been fruitless...hence my anguish not being able to find the McKenzies in Scotland either!
This is just wonderful, and I thankyou so very much for your time and effort!
Best wishes,
Rap.
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Rap
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Thankyou Elizabeth for your lead too...I'll certainly check it out. Now with the siblings of Alexander found, I'm off to check shipping here along with BDM to see if any of these siblings made it to Australia as well.....just when I thought the 'brick wall' was too big....something always turns up, thanks to you kind folk!!
Thankyou and best wishes
Rap.
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aspin
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your welcome Rap
Let me know how you come on
Elizabeth
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McKenzie,Helmsdale.,Mackay's,Gordon's,Polsons,Sutherland's,Loth & N/Z .Watson ,Munro,Pitsligo.Black. Harle ,South Shields.Black,and Short East Hollywell.Northumberland Gair, Amble,Douglas,Amble,Mitchell ,Fettercairns,Lyall, Brechin .Mearns ,Scotland.Thompson's ,Spittal. Maghie,Young .Raey Cumberland & Newcastle & Glasgow .Gilroy, Northumberland.and Starks Berwick.Skeen's Tweedmouth.Gregsons Northumberland & America. Andrew Farmer Turnbull Berwick , Pool and Black Hull.Lounton Tweedmouth
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Hi, I saw your message log on roots, and had to contact you. I am married to one of the Alexander Duncan McKenzie decendants. His Father is Noel John McKenzie, Son of Ernest Fredrick McKenzie, Son of Charles Henry Russell McKenzie, Son of Alexander Duncan McKenzie and Margaret Jane Tully, who came to Australia in 1855. Charles Henry was born on board "Hastings". My Husband is Mac John McKenzie. Our son Aiden James Luurt McKenzie (born 2006) is the next generation of McKenzie's from this line.
It was great to see you have information of Donald McKenzie & Cathryn Munro. We couldnt track back that far, as we didn't have Alexander Duncan's parents' names. We also don't know when / where he died, as this is not registered on our paperwork, Do you have any idea? We know they lived in the Bacchus Marsh area.
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