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Topic: Leese - Donnington Barracks, Lilleshall (Read 689 times)
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Baudoux
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I am looking for information on my Great Uncle William Thomas (or Thomas William Lees. He was born December 11, 1869.
I am also hoping I could find out the name of his spouse and children.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Many thanks.
Doris B.
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pete edwards
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Hi Doris B 
Do you mean this William?
1871 census
William Thomas Lees
abt 1870
Son
Father's Name: William
Where born: Lilleshall, Shropshire, England
Class: RG10; Piece: 2812; Folio: 88; Page: 18; GSU
Best wishes
Pete
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Edwards, mainly Cound, Frodesely, Acton Burnell. Pitchford. and surrounding villages, Shropshire, / Rowe, Cound, / Littlehales, Berrington, Shropshire / Radford, Dublin, / Maguire, Acton Burnell, / Rudge, Frodesely, /
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Baudoux
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Pete,
Sorry to be so late with a reply. I have had computer problems plus thefact we in Canada have had a terrible winter.
I am looking for information on my great grandparents, My Great Aunts' and Great Uncles:
Thomas Lees (1849( his spouse: Sarah Ann Bradley (1847)
CHILDREN: William Thomas (1869) his spouse Elizabeth Wyld; Joseph Thomas(1872) his spouse: Julia Humpherson (My grandparents); Julia (1874); John (1879) his spouse Emily Humpherson; George (1881); William Henry (1883) his spouse Alice Grindley; Leonard (1884) his spouse: Rose Tomkinson; Harried (1887) her spouse: Frederick Grindley; Albert Edward (1889{
Albert Edward the last child I have little to no information at all. I would like information on the children of my Great Aunts' and Great Uncles'
Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
Doris
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Denise15
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Hi Doris
I was just in the middle of trying to find my great grandparents house in Donnington Wood, Shropshire and I kept coming across your name on various sites and thought I might drop you a line. My mother's grandmother was Mary Humpherson who married Thomas Cooper. Mary Humpherson's father was called Moses as I believe you know. I guess your grandmother Julia may have been the daughter of Mary's older brother Thomas (?). It's fascinating to know that Julia went to Canada in 1903 as my mother remembers her grandfather talking about going to Canada to become a mountie. He may have got saddlesore(!) as he did in fact return to Shropshire and then Mary went over to Canada on his return. We don't know if they were just visiting relations or whether they meant to emigrate. In the end they both left Shropshire in 1913 and came to Nottingham, England (the mining industry was still strong in Nottingham). My mother who was very close to her grandparents has often wondered which part of the family went to Canada and whether any more Humphersons made the trip to Nova Scotia and beyond.
Hope all is well with you and that life is treating you kindly and that your research is going well.
Best Wishes
Denise Talbot
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dixme79
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I'm interested in the history of my family in this area and they lived in Waxhill Barracks. Was Donnington Wood Barracks seperate or another place? There doesn't seem to be a lot of easily available info about these 'barracks' but they sound quite grim- up to 30 families and one toilet at each end for all of them. i believe there are some cottages in Donnington Wood that were a part of a mining barracks.
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mauricej
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Hi, Waxhill Barracks and Donnington Barracks were groups of dwellings built for the workers employed in the local mining industry for the Lilleshall Company.
This Company had numerous coal and ironstone mines and iron works in the Donnington Wood area throughout the 19th century and into the 20th.
Donnington Barracks was built about 1810 and finally demolished in the 1830s;
Waxhill Barracks was built around 1804 and mainly demolished around 1889 to 1900 although some parts again remained up to 1930s.
Waxhill Barracks was possibly mainly for housing miners at the nearby Waxhill Colliery which ceased production in 1900, although, as above, there were numerous mines in the immediate vicinity.
Regards,
Maurice
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Baudoux
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Hi Denise,
So very sorry not to have been in touch before this. A relative of mine in Wales alerted me to the fact that there was a message to me on RootsChat The nice weather has taken me outdoors, and I have not been on the computer as much.
I was very pleased to hear from you. To start with, Moses Humpherson was a brother of my great-grandfather, Thomas.
Thomas married Mary Hodgkiss. From this union there are the following children.
Daniel (1856); Julia (1860) - my grandmother - ; Louisa (1863); Amelia (1866); John Thomas (1867); Aaron (1869); First Alice (1874); Mary Elizabeth (1874); Second Alice (1876); Emily (1878).
My grandmother, Julia married John Thomas (1st) Leese. They had 5 children:
Eleanor (1897); Dorothy(1898) - my mother - ; Emily (1899); Sarah (1901);
Joseph Thomas (2nd.) (1903)
Coal mining was on the down-grad in England. I guess the early 1900's, so since Nova Scotia, Canada was sending lists to the UK and other parts, the decision was made for the family to come to Canada. In 1904 my grandfather, Joseph along with his brother, John "Jack" set sail for Canada. They immediately went to work in the Westville Colliery, Pictou County, Nova Scotia. Got themselves settled in a home in Westville. When grandfather saved enough money, he sent for my grandmother and her little family, and this would be the year 1909. Accompanying my grandmother and her little family was her brothers, John T. Humpherson and Aaron Humpherson.
I have a picture of my grandmother's home in Donnington Wood, which was on the canal, the canal which I understand is no more. If you had occasion to attend St. Matthew's Church, you would see where I sent pictures to the church, which Granny Leese brought to Canada. I thought they should be returned home.
Please do keep in touch. I would like your e-mail if you are able to send it.
Kindest regards.
Doris Baudoux
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dixme79
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Thanks for your reply.
Isn't it interesting how emigration spread people all over the world.
All my ancestors are from Shropshire which just in my lifetime has become unusual. I actually live near Liverpool and my wife's family are half Birmingham, half Burmese. Of all previous ancestors the most foreign were from Staffordshire!
Miners were different and were more mobile due to the nature of their work. While their working conditions were appalling they were sometimes referred to as "working class aristocracy", particularly if they were face workers in a productive mine and part of a good team.
This sense of being in a team of equals, independent to an extent they would not have been on the land is difficult for us to equate. In the 1970s when I worked in a factory briefly, a fitter/mechanic told me that on a farm near Wrockwardine, near Donnington Wood, when he was a boy they still had to "doff their cap" in a kind of respectful salute to Colonel Crow who was himself only a tenant farmer, on pain of dismissal! That kind of feudalism was well gone in the industrial parts of Shropshire.
Having said all that the kind of sentimental attachment to mining has to be tempered by miner's sons who I went to school with whose parents would be aghast to think of their sons doing the same. Indeed a close friend of mine who teachs History in California had a father who was a Deputy (kind of Foreman) in the last deep coal-mine in Shropshire.
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Denise15
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Hi Doris
Lovely to hear from you and thank you for shedding light on the mystery of our Canadian connection. There certainly seems to have been a mass exodus from Donnington Wood at the beginning of the 20th century. I think that only one Humpherson stayed in Shropshire the others followed the mining industry and went to Canada, Durham, Yorkshire and Lancashire and our branch came to Nottinghamshire. I am afraid we don't know what happened to them after that as after my great grandmother's death (Mary Humpherson) in the early 1950s no one kept in touch. I haven't done a great deal of research as this plan to go and see my great grandparents house was only hatched a couple of months ago at the funeral of my great aunt Annette who was the last of our Shropshire connection. We have now tracked down the house and plan to go in September of this year. I also notice that you've mentioned somewhere the firstborn daughter of Mary Humpherson and William Thomas Cooper as Mary Louisa. We always thought that Thomas was the first child and so presume that Mary Louisa sadly must have died when still a child. I am told that my great grandmother had ten children and only seven survived. The last of those was my great aunt Annette who died in March of this year aged 101. Will certainly send you my email although I gather I have to post a few more times before I can use the personal messaging facility. Have also seen you make mention of Florence Mabel Humpherson and Isaac Cooper (married) - just in case you didn't know Isaac was the brother of William Thomas Cooper who married Mary Humpherson so two brothers married two sisters!
Keep enjoying the good weather
Kind Regards
Denise
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Baudoux
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Denise,
I haven't been on the computer much lately, been outdoors most of the time.
I was wondering if you had read what I had posted to you. Would I have posted it to you on the wrong section.
Look forward to hearing from you
Regards,
Doris
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