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painterlady
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Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« on: Saturday 17 January 09 14:23 GMT (UK) »

Have just found a family on the 1911 census described as living at 96 Church Hill St, Burton on Trent but the householder has written in 'Winshill' for the postal address. They were initially in Winshill but at some stage moved to B on T, can someone who knows the area tell me which this is please?
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wrjones
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Re: Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 17 January 09 14:47 GMT (UK) »

This link shows that Winshill was one of the five townships that made up the Parish of Burton on Trent;
http://www.rootschat.com/links/05az/

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painterlady
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Re: Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 17 January 09 15:15 GMT (UK) »

Thanks, that was an interesting link, I knew about the breweries as one grandfather worked for one but no idea which. Will see if I can find a town map to see just where the road was
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wrjones
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Re: Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 17 January 09 15:27 GMT (UK) »

Church Hill Street is named on the map for Winshill.See;
http://www.rootschat.com/links/05b0/

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Re: Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 17 January 09 15:34 GMT (UK) »

Hi

I live in Burton on Trent and can confirm that Church Hill Street is in Winshill which is part of Burton upon Trent.

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painterlady
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Re: Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 January 09 20:00 GMT (UK) »

Thanks all,   that is fine, I have now found the street on a map via Google but named only on the large scale version, nice to have confirmation. It's a funny area as it sometimes gets Staffs and sometimes Derby, interesting to see what is in which, all this SHOULD be good for my geography
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wrjones
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Re: Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 January 09 23:07 GMT (UK) »

Yes we sometimes forget that this as much about Geography as History!

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William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
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Dennell-Cheshire/Staffordshire.
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dabs0
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Re: Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 January 09 20:22 GMT (UK) »

Winshill before the boundary changes was Derbyshire but is now firmly in Burton on Trent, my OH has ancestors that used to live on West Street and it has caught me out as well!
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Re: Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 08 March 09 22:54 GMT (UK) »

I live in Winshill, just round the corner from Church Hill Street!  We have the original Deeds to our house, which was built in 1881.   Winshill was originally a village in Derbyshire, although it is now a suburb of Burton upon Trent.  The Staffordshire/Derbyshire border is currently about half a mile away on Newton Road, so we are only just within the boundaries of Burton upon Trent.

Sadly, these days, Winshill is synonymous with a very large council estate of ill repute, although Church Hill Street and the street where I live are in the original village.

Stapenhill, also now a suburb of Burton, also used to be in Derbyshire!

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Re: Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 18 March 09 15:30 GMT (UK) »

I am new here so apologize if I make a mistake.

I too used to live in West street(the old one) Winshill and have found it complicated to trace my ancestors because of Derbyshire/Staffordshire problem.  In fact I am still stuck trying to find my maternal grandmothers sister, who died in infancy.
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Re: Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 19:12 BST (UK) »

Painterlady, there's a really great site with maps of Burton on Trent 'through the decades' as it were, here:
www.burton-on-trent.org/1-History/Local%20Maps/burton_upon_trent_maps.htm

Early in researching a branch of my Newtons, I got caught by the Derbyshire/Staffordshire border thing. I couldn't understand why my ancestor's first wife's death was registered in Derbyshire when they were living in Burton. It soon became clear when I did a bit of research on registration boundaries!!
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Re: Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 20:10 BST (UK) »

Winshill has always been in Burton on Trent.  It was the counties that were different.  e,g Staffordshire and Derbyshire .  Hope this makes sense. 
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Re: Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 20:25 BST (UK) »

where in west street did you live
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Re: Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 31 March 09 21:59 BST (UK) »

It was the old West Street where i Lived.  No3 next door to the Queens Arms.
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Re: Burton on Trent or Winshill?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 03 April 09 20:01 BST (UK) »

ok knew the queens very well i was born and raised in east street
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