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Shirley39
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John Langford aka John Wise - Abingdon baker *COMPLETED*
« on: Sunday 18 January 09 10:30 UTC (UK) »

I am trying to trace the parentage etc. of John Langford.  According to the 1841 Census he was born in Berkshire and he died in 1846 at the age of 54 (death certificate), which would put his birth around 1792.
It is possible that he may have spent some time in Oxford where he may have met Ann Steane who became his partner (I have been unable to trace a marriage)  before settling in Abingdon. According to the Abingdon St Helen's PRs they had 5 children who were baptized as follows:
STEANE, George Langford Wise (1828) Called George Langford WISE when he died in 1832
STEANS,  Caleb Langford Wise (Ann's original family name, or may be trans.error) (1830)
LANGFORD, James (1834) Called James Langford STEANE when an adult
LANGFORD, Joseph (1840) Called Joseph WISE when an adult

Just to confuse things a bit further, the whole family was called LANGFORD in the 1841 Census, and Ann's Death Certificate refers to her as Ann Langford, formerly Steane.

I may be able to account for the different names as follows, but I have no proof!! The Steane surname was used because they were probably illegitimate and that was their mother's maiden name.
Langford was their father's name and Wise may have been their paternal stepfather's name, because according to the IGI one Sarah Langford of Sutton Courtenay, near Abingdon had 2 illegitimate sons, one of whom was John b 1792. In 1806 she married a William Wise.

Lastly, I would like to trace the birth of Thomas John (or John Thomas) Steane, believed born in Oxford in 1807 who I think was Ann's brother. Their father was John Steans and their mother was Sense/Hannah Wilford. They were both from Husbands Bosworth, Leicestershire.
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Re: John Langford aka John Wise - Abingdon baker
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 January 09 10:39 UTC (UK) »


Hi Shirley39,

                   From Oxfordshire Marriage Index (1538-1837)

20 Apr 1831 John Langford to Ann Steane at Ox St Michael


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Re: John Langford aka John Wise - Abingdon baker
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 January 09 10:58 UTC (UK) »



These are also from OMI Smiley

  Dont know if they help

12 Feb 1833 Emily Steane to Abraham Boot Gray of Northampton at Ox St Thomas
27 Jul 1830 Sarah Emma Steane to William Tonk Hicks of Ox Holywell at Ox St Michael
4 Jun 1797 Samuel Steane to Emma Hubbard at Ox St Peter B
18 Oct 1820 Samuel Steane to Jane Slatter of Ox St Michael at Ox St Thomas

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Re: John Langford aka John Wise - Abingdon baker
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 January 09 11:15 UTC (UK) »



Found this from Sutton Courtney PRs

   Baptisms

Apr 10 1792 John Langford son natural of Sarah of Wick born 4 March
Apr 15 1798 William Langford son of Sarah bb born Apr 3

   And a marriage

Apr 8 1806 William Wise to Sarah Langford, wid, both of Wick
                  Wits... William Poynter, Phillis Poynter

      If i can help anymore let me know Smiley

         Sue
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Re: John Langford aka John Wise - Abingdon baker )*COMPLETED*
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 January 09 17:11 UTC (UK) »

Dear Sue,

I can't thank you enough for the information which you have retrieved for me, I have been chasing John & Ann for a very long time.

The Oxford Steanes include Ann's uncle and cousins, I think, but have yet to prove. The 2 brothers (I assume) originally came from Husbands Bosworth.

The two Langford brothers I had already found on the IGI, but it was nice to get confirmation, as there were many Langfords & Wises in the Abingdon area at the time.

Must go now, as my house elf has my tea waiting!
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Re: John Langford aka John Wise - Abingdon baker *COMPLETED*
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 July 09 19:35 UTC (UK) »

Hello Shirley, can you email me offsite (from your own email address) at:

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with reference to my Steane website.

Many thanks
Tony Baker
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