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noo
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Barnard family on 1901 census, bit strange
« on: Sunday 18 January 09 17:07 UTC (UK) »
Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me. With the help of the 1911 census I have finally managed to track down where my Barnard ancestors are originally from. On the 1901 census on Ancestry, the family come up, Samuel Barnard with Wife Annie. He is born in Friday Bridge Cambs, she in Wisbech. They are living in Wisbech. He is born about 1850, she is born about 1846. They are living on their own. However, when I go into the census image, which is of Wisbech (part of St Peter) they are no where to be found, I have gone through the whole 30 pages and still cant find them. On other census returns they are living somewhere called Oil Mill (or Mile) Yard in Wisbech St Peter. I dont know where this is or how to read the folio pages.

Typically I cant find them on the 1911 census either, although Cambs is supposed to be complete

Can anyone help?

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here goes....
BATSON - Norwich then London
RAWLINS -  London
JENNER - Sussex then London
SEAL - London
MARNS - Ireland(?) then London
POWELL - Wales then London
BENSTED - Kent
DODSWORTH - Yorkshire
LARGE - London
DORTON - London
ALEXANDER - Scotland then London
BARNARD - ?
JUSTICE - Ireland then London
HILTON - London
ZIMMERMAN - London?
jacques
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Re: Barnard family on 1901 census, bit strange
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 January 09 17:30 UTC (UK) »
Hello
Here they are on 1911 Census only looked at Transcript

This reference a bit long  RG14PN9297  RG78PN500  RD187  SD2 ED3 SN369

Living at 5 Oil Mill Lane  Wisbech Cambs

Samuel  Barnard  Head   62  Gen Lab    Born Friday Bridge  Cambs
Annie                   Wife     65                           Wisbech               "

Pam
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Noble  Sheffield/Derby
Kirk     Sheffield/Northumberland
Lenton Sheffield
Ward  Deryshire
Twigg Derbyshire

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noo
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Re: Barnard family on 1901 census, bit strange
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 January 09 17:59 UTC (UK) »
ah thanks, i wonder why i coudnt find him, will have another go

seems unlikely they would have been anywhere else in 1901 but oil mill yard then
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BATSON - Norwich then London
RAWLINS -  London
JENNER - Sussex then London
SEAL - London
MARNS - Ireland(?) then London
POWELL - Wales then London
BENSTED - Kent
DODSWORTH - Yorkshire
LARGE - London
DORTON - London
ALEXANDER - Scotland then London
BARNARD - ?
JUSTICE - Ireland then London
HILTON - London
ZIMMERMAN - London?
bedfordshire boy
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Re: Barnard family on 1901 census, bit strange
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 January 09 18:39 UTC (UK) »
Ancestry have made a mess of linking the image.
5 Oil Mill Lane. Wisbech
Samuel Barnard head marr 52 Railway porter b Friday Bridge
Annie Barnard wife 50 Charwoman b Wisbech

It's image 21 in Wisbech District 1. The link takes you to image 1 in District 2

I have reported it

David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
noo
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Re: Barnard family on 1901 census, bit strange
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 January 09 20:07 UTC (UK) »
David, thank you. I thought it was something like that and tried to make sense of the districts and numbers etc, but dont really understand them. how did you find it by the way?
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here goes....
BATSON - Norwich then London
RAWLINS -  London
JENNER - Sussex then London
SEAL - London
MARNS - Ireland(?) then London
POWELL - Wales then London
BENSTED - Kent
DODSWORTH - Yorkshire
LARGE - London
DORTON - London
ALEXANDER - Scotland then London
BARNARD - ?
JUSTICE - Ireland then London
HILTON - London
ZIMMERMAN - London?
bedfordshire boy
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Re: Barnard family on 1901 census, bit strange
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 18 January 09 21:34 UTC (UK) »
Click View Record then scroll down to the bottom to pick up the reference:
Source Citation: Class:  ; Piece: 1555; Folio: 21; Page: 2.

As the page you're directed to (image 1 out of 30) is piece 1555 folio 27B page 14 it was clear that the correct page must be in the previous district

With the wrong image open look at the top and you'll see:
You are here: Search > Census > UK Census Collection > 1901 England Census > Cambridgeshire > Wisbech St Peter > Wisbech > District 2

Click on Wisbech, then on the next window click on District 1. The folio that opens is number 11 - top right of census page. So for folio 21 just add 20 to the image number ie image 21
David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Barnard family on 1901 census, bit strange
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 September 09 18:51 UTC (UK) »
Hi i am new to this but my grandfather was a B.W.Barnard his wife was Doris, ada, e Holbrook.  grandad had 4 brothers 3 sisters,
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Re: Barnard family on 1901 census, bit strange
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 September 09 19:48 UTC (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat!

Not sure if you need help, but if you do it's always helpful to give as much information as possible. eg when did your grandparents marry, do you have a rough idea of birth dates, names of the brothers and sisters.

Not knowing if you're 15 or 75 will make a big difference to where to start looking

David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Barnard family on 1901 census, bit strange
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 24 September 09 20:35 UTC (UK) »
 his brothers were Val, Bern, Ted, an i think Lesie, the sisters were May, (M) Ted Knowls,  Ivy,(M) George White, an Madge (M) Charles Jefferies,
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