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Why am I not found?
« on: Thursday 10 February 05 14:06 GMT (UK) »

Having set up my web pages I left it a couple of days and then tried searching in Google and other search engines for names that are on my site.  Nothing.  My site is utterly invisible to all search engines.  Is it a case of waiting a bit longer?  There's not a lot of point in putting it all online if no one can find it.
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Godden in East Sussex, mainly Hastings area.
Richards in Lea, Gloucestershire, then London.
Williamson in Leith, Vickers in Nottingham.
Webb in Bildeston and Colchester.
Wesbroom in Kirby le Soken.
Ellington in Harwich.
Park, Palmer, Segar and Peartree in Kersey.
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Re: Why am I not found?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 February 05 14:48 GMT (UK) »

Quote from: suttontrust
There's not a lot of point in putting it all online if no one can find it. 
 

... speaking of which, are we   allowed to visit, and if so, where ?    Grin  Grin

(hint, hint: address in profile, in signature, in ... ?? )


1)  Search programs are constantly combing the web (so-called "robots", so if you wait a while, your site will be found ...

2) I don't know what software you used for your web pages, so I don't know if this comes automatically, but in HTML you can define META-tags with keywords which you want search robots to find ... 
(which reminds me, I haven't done that for my site yet !)

3) there are web-services where you can register your site, so that robots and other searchers can find it. Not sure of the "how", maybe someone else knows. I often get such offers as SPAM-mail.

Yours in anticipation,
Bob
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Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe;
Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861)
and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site http://boco.rootschat.net

All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 February 05 14:55 GMT (UK) »

 Smiley Smiley Smiley

Yes Sutton !

Please put your web address in the signature area along with your 'names', then at least we here on Rootschat can read it.

If I remember rightly, when I first posted my website to the Internet, it took about 2 months  !!

Smiley Smiley Smiley
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BUCKLEY, Ches. DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

Website:  http://www.ag19pfalz36.plus.com/

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 February 05 16:01 GMT (UK) »

Thanks.  My web address is now under my picture (I presume that's what the little globe means).  Visit and welcome but note that I haven't got the images quite right (and a few I've taken out deliberately).  I did it with Legacy.
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Godden in East Sussex, mainly Hastings area.
Richards in Lea, Gloucestershire, then London.
Williamson in Leith, Vickers in Nottingham.
Webb in Bildeston and Colchester.
Wesbroom in Kirby le Soken.
Ellington in Harwich.
Park, Palmer, Segar and Peartree in Kersey.
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Re: Why am I not found?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 February 05 16:12 GMT (UK) »

 Smiley Smiley

Hi Sutton,

Enjoyed your site very much

Itsn't it strange how we share some surnames, ie. Williamson, Richards, Taylor & Woods, but as you know, they are not connected.

Smiley Smiley Smiley

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BUCKLEY, Ches. DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

Website:  http://www.ag19pfalz36.plus.com/

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Re: Why am I not found?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 February 05 20:08 GMT (UK) »

Try visiting the add site to google page and posting your site link directly.

Its not instant or certain,  but I have found most pages turn up.

Also get any family history friends with sites to add a link to your pages.  The search engine spiders will follow links off of known pages.  So a link in your sig will help get your ranking up.
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Taubman, Mitchell, Purcell - Lancashire,
Couglan, Byrnre - Ireland
Mullins, Bowditch, Crabb, Record - Dorset
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 February 05 20:28 GMT (UK) »

I looked at the Html for your home page and there is very little to identify the site or cause a search engine to find it. The title is
<title>Ancestors of</title>
Ancestors of Who?

This should read something like :
<title>Ann Jones, Her Family Tree</title>
That might make some sense for a search engine bot. I am afriad that I do not know how to manipulate the code for your site but someone like Berlin Bob or Falkryn may be better able to advise you.
That is the problem and as it is you will never be found  Cool
By contrast I give the source code for my own commercial site - perhaps it is the best as I am not a professional programmer but this is what I wrote:
<html>

<head>
<title>Southernprints: We supply Antique Engravings, Prints, Old Maps and much more. </title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name="KeyWords" content="family history, genealogical research, roots, antique prints, engravings, etchings, old map, American maps, European map, old British maps, world map, map old testament, old map England, map of old West, genealogy, antique etchings, vintage fashion plates, flapper fashion,French fashion, hunting prints, botanical drawings, topographical views, copperplate,
satire, cartography, collecting, steel engravings, lithographs, rare maps, antique maps, aquatint, mezzotint, unusual gifts, engarvings, posterprint ">
<meta name="description" content="We have old maps, antique engravings and prints, Victorian fashion prints, antique sporting prints and more. Collector material and valuable genealogical source." >
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Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa.
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Re: Why am I not found?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 February 05 20:39 GMT (UK) »

At the top of your index.html file you will find
Code:
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Created by Legacy 5.0, http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com">
<title>Ancestors of</title>
</head>
If you replace
Code:
<title>Ancestors of</title>
with
Code:
<title>Ancestors of your name</title>
this will help a little.
On your PC if you right click on the file and open with. . select notepad you should be able to edit the file.

If would also suggest adding some additional lines above the title one
here are my lines from my file as an example,  obviously you need to change to your sunames and modify the description as suits you the text in the content sections
Code:
<meta name="description" content="A collection of family stories and photographs, plus an extensive family tree containing many Dorset and Somerset people.">
<meta name="keywords" content="Mullins, Bowditch, Crabb, Record, Taubman, Scadden, Family History, Geneology, Dorset, Somerset, uk, south west">



You may also want to add an introduction to your history on the front page.  A little about your research etc to encourage people in.  Think of the first page as the cover or opening of a book.
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Taubman, Mitchell, Purcell - Lancashire,
Couglan, Byrnre - Ireland
Mullins, Bowditch, Crabb, Record - Dorset
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 February 05 22:00 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for the expert advice.  I've never done anything like this before and was just grateful that Legacy produced it all.  As soon as I have time I'll redo it and try to do as you say.
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Godden in East Sussex, mainly Hastings area.
Richards in Lea, Gloucestershire, then London.
Williamson in Leith, Vickers in Nottingham.
Webb in Bildeston and Colchester.
Wesbroom in Kirby le Soken.
Ellington in Harwich.
Park, Palmer, Segar and Peartree in Kersey.
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Re: Why am I not found?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 18 February 05 19:48 GMT (UK) »

Hi sutton,

in my last post I wrote
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3) there are web-services where you can register your site, so that robots and other searchers can find it. Not sure of the "how", maybe someone else knows. I often get such offers as SPAM-mail.

I've now just re-discovered Cyndy's Homepage Construction Kit
at http://www.cyndislist.com/construc.htm where there is a section
How to advertise your website: http://www.cyndislist.com/construc.htm#Advertise

see also my thread on this site: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,37357.0.html

Hope this helps,
Good luck
Bob
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Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe;
Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861)
and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site http://boco.rootschat.net

All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)
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