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Is there still a farm called Balnamoon in Grange, Banff?
« on: Tuesday 20 October 09 22:16 UTC (UK) »

Hi

My family (Lorimer family) owned a farm called Balnamoon in Grange, Banff up until just before 1900s.  I just wondered if anyone knew whether it was still there?

Thanks for your help  Smiley
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Re: Is there still a farm called Balnamoon in Grange, Banff?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 12:38 UTC (UK) »

You mean this one?

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1186307

If so, I'd say yes, it still exists.   Smiley

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Re: Is there still a farm called Balnamoon in Grange, Banff?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 13:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi Nell

Thank you very much Cheesy , i had tried googling it before  but couldn't find it  Undecided

Thanks again a really appreciate it!
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Re: Is there still a farm called Balnamoon in Grange, Banff?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 26 October 09 21:55 UTC (UK) »

Balnamoon is actually an area with quite a few farms and crofts , rather than just one farm. As well as the farm in the photograph above, Mains of Balnamoon, Balnamoonhill and West Balnamoon are all named on the modern 1:25,000 map.

Geograph has five more images of Balnamoon:

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/238432
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1186293
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/238468
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1186277
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/315521

The 1881 census lists 27 households at Balnamoon/(Hill). There is one Lorimer family, described as crofters of 20 acres, at Balnamoon (Hill), and at plain Balnamoon two farmers, one of 40 and the other of 60 acres, and another farmer of 200 acres. I reckon the one with the 200 acres, William Mitchell, would have been the one in the house in http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1186307
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Re: Is there still a farm called Balnamoon in Grange, Banff?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 26 October 09 23:04 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Thank you for the message and the links, i didn't realise Balnamoon was an area  Smiley.  My grans family stayed there for years before moving down to central scotland. 

I will need to pop up there one day for a wee nosey  Smiley

Thanks again  Cheesy
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Re: Is there still a farm called Balnamoon in Grange, Banff?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 31 October 09 23:54 UTC (UK) »

Yes Balnamoon is still there , i lived in Deskford from the thirties to the fifties and the farmer then was a Mr Jack , it may be joined up with other farms , but the steading is still there .
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Re: Is there still a farm called Balnamoon in Grange, Banff?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 November 09 09:27 UTC (UK) »

Thank you Tom i appreciate that  Smiley.  I will really need to try and visit Banff at some point  Smiley

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Re: Is there still a farm called Balnamoon in Grange, Banff?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 November 09 10:17 UTC (UK) »

I will really need to try and visit Banff at some point  Smiley

When you do, I recommend a look at the Valuation Rolls for the county of Banff. These list all the addresses in the county by parish, with the names of the proprietor, tenant and occupier. This could be useful for finding out where exactly your Lorimers lived at Balnamoon. There are copies of the VRs in the Local Heritage Centre in Elgin, and probably also in the library in the burgh of Banff. Also in Aberdeen and in the National Library and National Archives in Edinburgh.
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Re: Is there still a farm called Balnamoon in Grange, Banff?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 November 09 10:26 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for the tips Forfarian.  I will try that  Cheesy
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Re: Is there still a farm called Balnamoon in Grange, Banff?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 05 November 09 21:31 UTC (UK) »

I happened to be in Elgin the other day and I had a look to see what Valuation Rolls they have. In fact the only relevant one there is the 1877-1878 one. There are VRs for 1906-1907 and some later years. There should be a full set in Edinburgh and possibly in Aberdeen and/or Banff.

All the properties at Balnamoon and Balnamoon Hill were part of the estate of Braco, and the proprietor of them all was the Right Honourable Viscount Macduff.  This was the then title of Alexander William George Duff, later the first Duke of Fife.

There were three farms, and William Mitchell was tenant of the largest farm, which had an annual value of £100/-/-. John Raffan was tenant of another, annual value £32/-/- and Ann Taylor of a third, annual value £7/10/-.

There were several crofts at Balnamoon, with annual values ranging from £11/19/- to £32/-/-. John Lorimer was tenant (not owner) of a croft with annual value £14/-/-. On Balnamoon Hill there were more crofts, with annual values between £1/1/- and £4/10/-, and there were 25 further tenants with annual values of less than £1/-/-, though these could have been anywhere on the Braco estate, not necessarily on Balnamoon.

Comparing the names of the tenants in 1877-1878 with the householders in the census in 1881, all those who had 19-year leases in 1877-1878 were still there in 1881 except John Lorimer, who died in 1877 and had presumably been succeeded by his son William.

The sizes of the farms and crofts ranged from the 100-acre farm tenanted by William Mitchell, 66-acre farm tenanted by John Raffan and 60-acre croft tenanted by John Reid down to just 4 acres tenanted by James Shand, and presumably even smaller properties not listed individually in the valuation roll. William Lorimer's 20 acres was a sizeable croft, but small for a farm.

(Digression. John Raffan's 66 acres of which 42 were arable was listed in the VR as a farm, and John Reid's 60 acres of which 45 were arable was listed as a croft, both with the same annual value of £32/-/-; and there were several crofts with acreages and annual values greater than Ann Taylor's 17-acre farm.  This makes me wonder anew just what the distinction between a farm and a croft was.)

The two larger farms and the crofts at Balnamoon were on 19-year leases, while Ann Taylor's farm and the crofts on Balnamoon Hill were on annual leases.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Is there still a farm called Balnamoon in Grange, Banff?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 08 November 09 14:44 UTC (UK) »

Thank you very much for checking that out for me Forfarian.

That was really good of you, it is really interesting.  I also have Raffan's in my tree from Banff (my great great great Grandmothers family) which is interesting.

Thanks again  Cheesy

Laura
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