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kishtu
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name change in Australia
« on: Saturday 24 January 09 01:39 UTC (UK) »
Hi I'm trying to help a friend find her grandfather, who lived in Queensland Australia.  He joined the army under the name Stanley Maurice Horn and married at sea to Ethel Marshall, 1918, on the Dorothea.  He later, presumably changed his name to Stanley Morris Somerville between the year 1930 and 1933.   He married Hellen Elizabeth Tighe in 1921, Brisbane Queensland.

He died in 1933 in Kalgoorlie.

If anyone can help with finding records of his change of name, this would be greatly apprieciated.

Kish
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Re: name change in Australia
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 24 January 09 02:33 UTC (UK) »
Hello Kish

It was not uncommon for folks to change their name without any  type of formal records. Records for deed poll name changes may exist at the bdm registry in Queensland & the equivalent in WA. I don't know the dates when names could be changed by deed poll in Australia. The Qld registry is not well known for speedy answers to queries

http://www.justice.qld.gov.au/461.htm

Have you found him in the 1901 Census, as the war record indicates he was born in London?
There is a freeBDM record for a birth in London Sep 1896
Horn  Stanley Maurice     Hackney  1b 433  (apologies if you already have this)
If this was him, he seems to have added a year to his age on the war service record (if my math is correct).

Trish
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Re: name change in Australia
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 October 09 17:41 UTC (UK) »
Hi Kish

Stanley Maurice HORN was born Stoke Newington, Hackney, London UK 1896 to Frederick William HORN and Maria nee PURNELL.

I note (from his ANZAC record) that his next of kin when changed from father to wife was ..........

Mrs (?) HORN
"Dorothea" (would be the name of the house/property where she lived)
Eastwood Lane
Southend on Sea
(Essex)
Eng(land)

If he married Ethel MARSHALL it was in Essex, England ..............

Stanley M HORN/Ethel MARSHALL marriage Rochford (Essex) registration district December quarter 1918 ref. 4a 1395

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Re: name change in Australia
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 October 09 00:43 UTC (UK) »
Hi Casalguidi

Thanks for that information.  I have forwarded it onto my friend and she is quite excited.

We think the "Dorothea" was the ship Stanley Horn was on at the time of his marraige.  My friend has his army records from Austrakia but not those from England.  We are also assuming Ethel was working on the ship at the time, but cant be 100% certain.

Thanks
Kish
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 October 09 03:30 UTC (UK) »
Hi
Dorothea is indeed the name of a property in Westcliff-on-Sea, Southend, Essex. The link below is to a document that mentions the property.

http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:vTy9c8FsKiwJ:seax.essexcc.gov.uk/result_details.asp%3FDocID%3D268317+%22dorothea+eastwood+lane%22&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

If you send for the marriage certificate from the General Register Office using the information supplied by casalguidi you will be able to find both the bride and grooms address and where the marriage took place.

Andy
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Re: name change in Australia
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 October 09 21:21 UTC (UK) »
The marriage certificate is on page 35 of the War Service Record.
Servicemen who married overseas whilst on War Service had their Marriages recorded in their record.
Stanleys address was:

43 Fleetwood Avenue,
Southend-On-Sea

and Ethel address was:
"Dorothea"
Eastwood Lane
Southend-On-Sea.

So I would say "Dorothea" was the name of the house, not a ship.

Leanne

Note,modified to add link:
the link to the Australian records has not been posted, so here it is:

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx
select guest search.

Stanleys' record is 80 pages long.

Leanne
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Re: name change in Australia
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 October 09 23:07 UTC (UK) »
Hi

His British Army service records are on Ancestry under WW1 Service records. These relate to the 4 months militia service he refers to in his AIF records.

Andy
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Re: name change in Australia
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 October 09 23:39 UTC (UK) »
Did Ethel come to Australia?

Did Stanley have any children?

Leanne
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Re: name change in Australia
« Reply #8 on: Monday 12 October 09 12:53 UTC (UK) »
Hi Leanne

From records we have found it doesnt look like Ethel came to Australia,  I'm not sure if Ethel and Stanley had children before he moved to Australia.  Stanley remarried in Australia and dissapeared.  He then changed his name and remarried again.  I think he had 3 boys to his 3rd marraige.

The marraige between Ethel and Stanley looks like happened while he was on leave and went back to England.

Kish

Andy
Thanks for the heads up on the British Army Records, my friend was so excited about reading them.
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