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pippylong
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Livingston
« on: Saturday 24 January 09 22:05 UTC (UK) »
Hi there,

Can anyone help please!

I'm trying to find out where East End is in Livingston.  I have ancestors in nos. 41 and 57.  1871 William Bell 57 East End and Mary Moore 41 East End, Livingston.  Any help would be gratefully received,
many thanks ,

Pip Smiley
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Re: Livingston
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 January 09 16:43 UTC (UK) »
I think you may be looking for Livingston village or maybe Livingston Station as the Livingston we know now did not start to be built till the 1960,if you look up the old maps you may find it.There were rows and rows of Shale oil workers houses just before Livingston Station but they are all gone now and the M8 and Deans industrial estate is there now
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Re: Livingston
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 27 January 09 21:17 UTC (UK) »
Hi  firthview,

I've tried searching for old maps but they don't seem to list East End anywhere.  Am I doing something wrong, or can you suggest anything! Huh

Thank you,

Pip  Smiley
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Re: Livingston
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 27 January 09 21:35 UTC (UK) »
Several villages are listed with an "East End" - it may be something as simple as meaning the east end of the village or the east end of the High Street.  So I would suggest that it means the east end of the settlement, out towards where the Free Church Manse stood.

Nell
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Re: Livingston
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 27 January 09 21:48 UTC (UK) »
thanks Nell,

do you know where I would get a map to show this? many thanks,

Pip Smiley
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Re: Livingston
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 27 January 09 21:57 UTC (UK) »
Have you ever looked at the Old Maps site?

http://www.old-maps.co.uk

Use the 'Maps' then 'Gazeteer' button to get to the list of counties and narrow your choice down to Livingstone Village.

Nell
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Re: Livingston
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 27 January 09 22:13 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

that's where I went first!...............I wasn't happy with the results..........or is this me being picky perhaps......I shall look again!  many thanks for your reply,

Pip Smiley
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Re: Livingston
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 28 January 09 12:08 UTC (UK) »
I didn't actually say it was marked on the map!  I was trying to say that many places in census records have "East End" described in the enumerator's description or in the schedules as part of the address.  It may merely be their way of describing where the house/cottage was situated, with no designation on the map.  Sometimes all you see is "Cottage" which is really unhelpful if you want to know where that is.  Then you have to look at the neighbouring schedules to try to work out where on the enumerator's route it may have been.

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Re: Livingston
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 February 09 22:50 UTC (UK) »
Hi Nell,

I think I can take it that they lived at the east end of the village.  Would that be Jackson Place by St John's Hospital (Free church manse)?  I don't have access to Scottish records at the moment so any help is gratefully received,

many thanks,

Pip Smiley
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Re: Livingston
« Reply #9 on: Friday 06 February 09 12:19 UTC (UK) »
From a comparison of the old map and the current OS map, I would have said it might have been closer to the old Main Street of Livingston Village.

Nell
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Re: Livingston
« Reply #10 on: Friday 06 February 09 12:26 UTC (UK) »
While the old-maps website is useful the NLS website can be as good if not better as there are viewing options that allow an easy comparison with the modern situation.

See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,351410.0.html .

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