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SAM100
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Hi,
My ancestors, Samuel Aylott and family are listed in the 1841 census as living at Clay End, Walkern. Unfortunately it does not list their occupation.
I have "googled" Clay End but there is no information as to whether it is a village and google maps show it in the middle of a field.
I understand that there was a public house there in the 19th century. Was Clay End a village?
I would be grateful to anyone who could enlighten me as to what possible type of work my ancestors were involved in.......perhaps farm work.
Thank you 
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charlotteCH
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Hi Sam,
Are they in 1851 and subsequent census? This may give occupoation...
charlotte
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+
GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI
HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY Nunney/Frome 18-19C
HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN Ont. Canada 1830+
PILSEN, Sask.
82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
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SAM100
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Hi Charlotte,
Have just found them in the 1861 census and Samuel Aylott's occupation is listed as gardener.
Thanks
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charlotteCH
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Sam, was he a gardener at a "big" house... ie in the employ of some rich person nearby?
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+
GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI
HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY Nunney/Frome 18-19C
HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN Ont. Canada 1830+
PILSEN, Sask.
82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
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SAM100
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Hi Charlotte,
A definite possibility as his address in the 1861 census is Clay Hall Cottage, Village Rd, Walkern.
Would this suggest to you that the "big house" is called Clay Hall or would cottages have their own individual names?
Cheers
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charlotteCH
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Witout any knowledge of the exact situation I'd say it's a possibilty that a big house, Clay Hall, was involved.
maybe there are two ways of chasing this...
can you look at the rest of the census entries for nearby and see if there is a big house and/or lots of servants living there or nearby? Is there only one Clay Cottage or a row of them? etc
an other alternative might be to google "Clay Hall" and see what comes up- &/or to email the Local Studies Library nearest to Walkern and ask them if there is a Clay Hall etc...
charlotte
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+
GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI
HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY Nunney/Frome 18-19C
HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN Ont. Canada 1830+
PILSEN, Sask.
82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
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millerina
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I'm sure I have heard somewhere (can't remember where though, so might well be wrong!) that Clay Hall was the original name for Walkern Hall, which is right next to Clay End. Clay End is tiny, much smaller than a village, so possibly it would be classed as a hamlet?
www.old-maps.co.uk - search using the coordinates 530500, 225200 for an 1884 map of clay end and Walkern Hall
Hope this helps!
millerina
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SAM100
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Good Morning Charlotte and Millerina,
My thanks to you both for some wonderful advice
Charlotte - I went back to the 1851 census and found the "big house".
It was called Clay Hall and I have found people listed with occupations such as bailiff, groom, cook, laundress, agricultural labourer etc.,. Excellent advice to search for the associated people in the census. Many thanks
Millerina - My thanks for the link to the old maps
Regards
Sam
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charlotteCH
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Hi Sam, Sounds good and that you are making real progress.... I'll bet there are pics of Clay Hall and probably copies of these are at the nearest Local Studies Library to where it was...
Keep us posted.
charlotte
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+
GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI
HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY Nunney/Frome 18-19C
HUMPHRIES, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN Ont. Canada 1830+
PILSEN, Sask.
82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1800
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Gee Ganz
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Hello regarding Clay End Walkern Hertfordshire my family, the Harts, lived there mid-late 1800s and were millers and AgLabs. There used to be a windmill at Clay End which no longer exists. I visited Clay End the other day just to see what the area was like, it is about 20 minutes by car from me. You leave Walkern High Street and approach Clay End left at the War Memorial and up a hill - a very narrow road. Clay Hall, now Walkern Hall, is at the top. There is a farm there and just a handful of cottages. Absolutely stunning countryside. I wrote to the farmer asking about the existence of the windmill and his wife replied that they never knew one existed. I have found a 1851 map of John Izzard Pryor showing the whereabouts of the Mill. An interesting book is the Diary of John Izzard Pryor - A Chronicle of Small Beer by Gerald Curtis. John Izzard Pryor had Clay Hall built and lived there with him family until his death. If you live in the UK well worth trying to borrow it from you library. I also noticed the Aylott gardener in the family as I have Aylotts, Harts, Waldock, Spriggins, Warners and more. I couldn't actually link this Aylott to my family but I have to say I didn't spend a lot of time of that part of the family. Hope this is of interest.
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SAM100
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Thank you for the information.
I hope to visit it when I am next in England
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