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Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« on: Monday 26 January 09 04:39 UTC (UK) »

I'm " A* challenged " right now ( meaning I don't have it !!  Roll Eyes ) .... and I wondered if I could ask if somebody could look for 6 brothers on the WW1 US draft cards for me please ?

Lawrence W. Gould, 1st Lt. James E. Gould, Major William B. Gould, Jr., Lt. Herbert R. Gould, 1st Lt. Ernest M. Gould, and Frederick C. Gould

I'd be very appreciative !

Thanking you in advance !

Annie  Smiley

PS They are a black family !!
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Re: Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 January 09 05:09 UTC (UK) »

Here’s the first, hard to read,  12 Sept. 1918:

Lawrence Wheeler Gould; 303 Whitten [Walton?] St.,  ???ham, Norfolk County, Mass.; age 43, 30 March 1875; negro; contractor, self employed, same address;  nearest relative William B. Gould, same address, tall, medium build, brown eyes, brown? hair, no defects.
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Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Re: Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« Reply #2 on: Monday 26 January 09 05:10 UTC (UK) »



Yes !! ... you're the bomb Erato !!  Grin Grin Grin

Thank you !

Annie  Smiley
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Re: Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« Reply #3 on: Monday 26 January 09 05:19 UTC (UK) »

This could be James, 12 Sept. 1918  [there are other candidates without middle name or initial] –

James Edward Gould, 1071 Fulton St., Brooklyn, NY; age 38, 19 Jan. 1880; negro, native born citizen; laborer,  319 Washington St., NY; nearest relative, Margaret Gould, 79 Rochester Ave, Brooklyn; tall, medium build, brown eyes, dark hair, no defects.
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Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Re: Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« Reply #4 on: Monday 26 January 09 05:24 UTC (UK) »



I assumed they would all be in Mass !!  Undecided ....... but they could have spread out and got married couldn't they ??

William B ... was the Dad ( he was in the Civil War !! ... I just added that for interest !!  Cheesy )

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Re: Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 January 09 05:26 UTC (UK) »



Here's a picture .....

Dad is sitting down and the boys are as before left to right

Lawrence W. Gould, 1st Lt. James E. Gould, Major William B. Gould, Jr., Lt. Herbert R. Gould, 1st Lt. Ernest M. Gould, and Frederick C. Gould



* gould_family.jpg (175.82 KB, 720x541 - viewed 134 times.)
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Re: Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« Reply #6 on: Monday 26 January 09 05:32 UTC (UK) »

No James in Massachusetts and I don't see a William in Massachusetts either.  There are 2 Herberts, both in New Jersey:

one born 10 Sept. 1883 and the other 19 Nov. 1895 - which do you favor?
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Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Re: Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« Reply #7 on: Monday 26 January 09 05:36 UTC (UK) »



Ooh ! I don't know  Undecided ... James and Herbert look young though to me ... don't you think ?
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Re: Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« Reply #8 on: Monday 26 January 09 05:56 UTC (UK) »

Hard to read but I think this could be Fred, ?? June 1917 –

Fredrick Carson Gould; age 26, b. 5 March 1891 in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania;  2171 Center? Ave?, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania; native born citizen; janitor 29 [??], Henry Oliver Estate, illegible address; married, wife and child; negro; no prior service, doesn’t claim exemption; tall, medium build, dark brown eyes, black hair, not bald, one eye blind.
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Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Re: Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« Reply #9 on: Monday 26 January 09 06:03 UTC (UK) »

There is only one black Ernest Gould - Ernest Oliver
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Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Re: Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« Reply #10 on: Monday 26 January 09 06:35 UTC (UK) »

The first Herbert:

Herbert Gould; Rt. 9, Bridgton, NJ; age 21, b. 19 Nov. 1895 in Gouldtown, NJ; native born citizen; farming, self employed, Gouldtown; single; negro; tall, medium build, brown eyes, black hair, no defects.

The second Herbert:

Herbert Gould; 809 Locust St., Camden, NJ; age 35, 10 Aug. 1883, negro, native born citizen; laborer, McAndrews Forge Co., nearest relative, Arthur Gould, 142 Mt. Vernon; tall, medium build, brown eyes, black hair, 3rd finger off right hand.

>>>>

maybe the others were career military and not subject to the draft
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Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Re: Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« Reply #11 on: Monday 26 January 09 07:08 UTC (UK) »

1920 census:
OK - here's the family in the 1920 census, so you can forget those draft documents for Herbert and Fred


William B. Gould; 303 Milton St., District 189, Dedham, Norfolk County, Massachusetts; black, 82, wid.; b. North Carolina, parents b. North Carolina; retired

Madra, daughter, 53, single, Massachusetts, no occupation
Frederic, son, 47, single, Massachusetts, macinist, RR
Lawrence, son, 39, single, Massachusetts, mason, shop
Herbert, son,  31, married, Massachusetts, architect, office
Agnes, d-in-law, 35, married, New Jersey, no occupation
Edward, son, 28, single, Massachusetts, inspector, state
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Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Re: Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« Reply #12 on: Monday 26 January 09 14:19 UTC (UK) »

There's a picture here with all the middle names listed:  http://www.mitsawokett.com/Mitsawokett%20Photos/GouldWilliamBFamily.htm
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Re: Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« Reply #13 on: Monday 26 January 09 14:21 UTC (UK) »

Hi Annie -

Ancestry was too slow last night to continue and it was getting late.  I'll get back on this later - have to go see a man about a dog [well, actually a dog of a translation].  It looks like they were mostly in Massachusetts and didn't have draft registration docs.  Maybe the family was so military minded they all volunteered as soon as war was in the air.
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Wiltshire:  Banks, Taylor
Somerset:  Duddridge, Richards, Barnard, Pillinger
Gloucestershire:  Barnard, Marsh, Crossman
Bristol:  Banks, Duddridge, Barnard
Down:  Ennis, McGee
Wicklow:  Chapman, Pepper
Wigtownshire:  Logan, Conning
Wisconsin:  Ennis, Chapman, Logan, Ware
Maine:  Ware, Mitchell, Tarr
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Re: Can I ask a Big Favour Please ? the Gould Family
« Reply #14 on: Monday 26 January 09 14:23 UTC (UK) »

There's information on Ernest here:  http://history.amedd.army.mil/ameddcorp/African-AmericanDentalSurgeons/default.html

From U.S. Veterans Gravesites -
Ernest Moore Gould
Service Information - 1st Lt. Dental Corps US Army  
Death Date: 13 Mar. 1945
Buried at Section 8. Site 5340, Arlington National Cemetery  

 
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