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Topic: Thomas Cowham, Hull. 1784-1859 (Read 633 times)
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Skull
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I'm trying to discover more about Thomas Cowham (probably a seaman) and his wife from Hull. He married Ann Cade also from Hull in 1806. They had 2 children: Francis (Fanny) in 1821 and Edward in 1823 both born in Hull. Neither Thomas or the children seem to have left Hull. It seems odd that the first child was born 15 years after they married. He must have gone on a very long sea trip!!
Ann it seems, then married a Richard Lee in 1820 in Northamptonshire and according to the various Censuses had 2 children named Lee both born in Wansford, Northamptonshire: Frances born in about 1821-23 and Richard born in 1826. I have been trying to establish if the 2 Frances's are the same person, and who is the real father of Frances, Edward and Richard. Edward Cowham was born in 1823, 3 years after Ann married Richard Lee, who doesn't seem to appear in any Census.
Frances appears in the 1851 Census in Wansford Northamptonshire as Fanny Lee, born in Wansford aged 28.
There is also Fanny Cowham in the 1851 Census for Hull, born in Hull aged 29 working as a servant for the Hill family.
Were the Censuses carried out at different times of the year in the various counties? Could this be the same Fanny in both Censuses?
I am particularly interested to discover the real father of Richard Lee (1826).
In the 1851 Census, Thomas is living alone in the Victoria Hospital in Hull, for seamen.
Have I got the wrong people here?
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suzard
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Hi,
I'm a little bit lost -have I misread your post???
You state Thomas Cowham married Ann Cade in 1806
Children were Frances 1821, Edward 1823
But then you state Ann married Richard lee in 1820
Have I misread something??
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suzard
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By the way the census was taken on the same night throughout England and Wales
The date varied each year -but was taken in all counties on the same night
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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suzard
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Thomas and Ann appear together on 1841 census with fanny and Edward
Thomas is a widower by 1851
There is a death reg freeBMD
(transcribed as "Cowhan")
Ann Elizabeth Cowhan
Dec qtr 1849
Sculcoates
22 432
Maybe?
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suzard
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there are other children b to Thomas Cowham and Ann
IGI extracted
all christened in Sculcoates
all parents Thomas Cowham/Ann
Thomas Cowham c. 26 jan 1807
Elizabeth Cowham
Sarah Cowham
both chrristened 10 may 1829 Sculcoates
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Skull
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Thanks for the reply.
Sorry to confuse you!
I originally mis-typed Thomas's birth date as 1854 - it should have been 1884.
According to the IGI, Richard Lee married Ann Cowham on 28th October, 1820 at Thornaugh (Wansford), Northamptonshire.
In the 1851 Census, Ann Lee is a widowed pensioner, living in Wansford, Northamptonshire. She is listed as having been being born in about 1786 in Hull, Yorkshire. Fanny Lee is 28 and Richard is 23.
Are there perhaps 2 Ann Cowhams, both from Hull, both born at about the same time, both with a daughter called Fanny? Maybe they were cousins. Perhaps one stayed in Hull and the other moved to Northamptonshire?
I hope this makes my confusion a bit clearer!
Skull
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Skull
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There is still a big gap between the first and second child born to Thomas and Ann. There are 13 years between Thomas (1807) and Fanny (1821). I guess there could have been other children in the intervening years, not recorded anywhere.
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Skull
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The Ann that married Thomas Cowham in 1806 was Ann Cade (1786) born in Hull.
So I guess the Ann Cowham that married Richard Lee in 1820, had the maiden name of Cowham.
So I'm now looking for Ann Cowham, born in 1786 in Hull, who married Richard Lee in Thornaugh, Wansford, Northamptonshire.
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Skull
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Sorry! That should of course have been 1784 not 1884.
Anyway - I believe I have found the Ann Cowham that married Richard Lee. There are two entries in the IGI. I don't know why these are in consecutive years. There are other children listed, including Mary, also christened in 1789, about two weeks earlier.
Ann Cowham: christened 02 June 1788. Parents: Robert Cowham and Frances.
Ann Cowham: christened 15 June 1789. Parents: Robert Cowham and Frances
Sculcoates, Yorkshire.
Sorry to have confused you. I've been typing too quickly for my brain!
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Emma
I have William Parker Cowham (1796) in my tree, as being the 9th and last child of Robert Cowham (1754) and Frances Curtis (1757).
The parents of Robert Cowham were John Cowham (1733) and Mary Parker (1728). I believe all the Cowham family were from Hull. John Cowham had a ship's chandlery in High Street, Hull and other members of the family were mariners.
Is there any connection here? Do you have a Mary Parker in your tree? I have her as born in Little Bytham, St Medard, Lincolnshire. I have her father as Thomas Parker (1690) born in Folkingham, Lincolnshire.
Both Parker and Cowham seem to have been fairly common names in Hull don't they?
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EmmaParker
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Skull,
John Cowham Parker's father was William Parker (1743-1820), and his mother I beleive was Betty Brownston Brows (died 17/12/1799). However William's father was also William and I beleive he married mary simkins in 1742.
However as I understand it, John Cowham Parker was a wine merchant (as well as Mayor twice), and I have never heard mention of any maritime connection in the family. JCP married twice, first time to Ann Goodhand (by family legend at Gretna Green), and secondly to Eliza/Elizabeth Spedding. I also have record that JCP had 24 children, although so far I only have details of 5!
So there maybe a connection, but I don't know.
Emma
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Relatives of john Cowham parker (1773-1841) who was mayor of Hull and had 2 wives, firstly Ann Goodhand and second Elizabeth/Eliza Speedings
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Hi
I'm a 6 x great granddaughter of John Cowham and Mary Parker. I'm a descendant of there son Thomas Cowham (bn 1760) who was a master mariner and the uncle of William Parker Cowham. Thomas had a son also called Thomas who married Anne Cade, I'm aware of the several children from that marriage:
Thomas Cowham (bn 1807) he was a clockmaker and gentleman farmer
Sarah Cowham (bn 1810)
Ann Cowham (bn approx 1814)
Frances Cowham (bn 1821)
Edward Cowham (bn 1823)
I believe William Parker Cowham had a sister called Ann (bn 1788)
All of these ancestors came form Hull and mostly the Drypool/Sculcoates areas
Hope this helps. Has anyone managed to following the tree further back from John Cowham and Mary Parker?
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