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Abiam
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Hi Monica,
I am doing this for a friend and have been sent this invitation. I have tried to scan it but it is too pale to be read.
This is what it says:
Ruby Wedding
of
Mr and Mrs Jas. Ferguson
65 Kilmarnock Road
Crosshouse
That is all on that one.
Then there is this invitation to their 65th Wedding Anniversary party:
The family of Mr and Mrs James ferguson
request the pleasure of
(Not too sure about this - very faded hand written)
Mr and Mrs John Fergusson and family's
company at the 65th Anniversary of the
marriage of their Father and Mother,
which will be held in the
Community Centre, Crosshouse,
on Friday 14th March 1958
at 7pm
An early reply will oblige
George Howie Ferguson
165 McKinlay Crescent
Irvine
I think the first was a separate 'do' and the second is 25 years later - as they married in 1893.
So George Howie Ferguson brother of Joseph? I haven't looked for his birth yet, will do now,
Abiam
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SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
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MonicaLesl
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That's great Abiam!
I have found the marriage cert of George Howie Ferguson in 1917 Irvine. His parents shows as:
James Ferguson - Storeman
Christina Shea (ms)
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MonicaLesl
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Section from George's MC:
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MonicaLesl
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From the Common Room post we had a possible entry for the family:
James Ferguson 27, Police constable, b. Hanlus, Aberdeenshire
Christina Ferguson 27, b. Stricken, Aberdeenshire
Joseph Ferguson 8, b. Braclaymore, Aberdeenshire
Jemima Ferguson 6, b. New Aberdour, Aberdeenshire
Mary Ann Ferguson 4, b. New Aberdour, Aberdeenshire
George Ferguson 1, b. New Aberdour, Aberdeenshire
Christina Ferguson 3months, b. Kilmarnock, Ayrshire
Ellen Howie 25, visitor, b. Fordire, Aberdeenshire
Angus Munroe 24, boarder, police constable, b. Benly, Invernesshire
James Wither 23, boarder, police constable, b Stranrain, Wigtonshire
Address: 9 1/2 O. Mill Road, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire
There is a birth entry showing on SP for a George HOWIE Ferguson in 1899 in Aberdour, Aberdeenshire.
Monica
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Abiam
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Just trying to reply and it all disappeared. This is great news! Well done 
So we have for certain
Joseph Morrison Ferguson Born 1893 Parents James F and Christina Shea
George Howie Ferguson Born C. 1894/10 ditto ditto
The family chat is that Joseph is the 2nd son of James and Christina's twelve!
I think they were well on the way with 5 and both parents were only 27.
It looks as though the children are right on the 1901 and the IGI just Joseph's birth but Someone gave the name for that. I daren't go looking on the other thread as I've lost this post twice now!
Now looking for James' birth
Thank you for that,
Abiam
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DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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Abiam
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Just found 2 births both in 1874 one in Methlick and one in New Deer. We have James with all the posh! middle names and the mother was Christina!
Surely that has to be right? What do you think? Or shall I be bold and get both? I think it's worse spending some else's money feel guilty if it gets wasted! Just got 3 'wrong' births at 5 credits each!
Abaim
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DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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MonicaLesl
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I have viewed the 1874 James birth in Methlick and also the 1917 MC for George (if you PM me I can send further details).
Added: the 1874 entry is Methlick is the correct one matching the parents James gave on his 1893 MC. Also the birth of George Howie F. shows in 1899 Aberdour as per the 1901 census.
Not sure that Joseph was second born, more like first born given his 1893 birth year (unless there was another child born before Christina and James F married who may have died?)
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Abiam
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Yes, Agreed! Got them them both and I agree (I said Christina in my previous post - brain getting addled) So, onwards and backwards if that makes sense! Will Pm you, in a minute,
Thanks so much!
Abiam
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Genealogists never die! They just undertake to join their ancestors!
DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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Abiam
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Wondering if you are about Monica?
I was doing quite well with this family but something kept niggling at me.
Joseph MORRISON Ferguson
On his birth cert it says Joseph MORRISON SHEA Ferguson (Mother Christina neé Shea)
On his marriage cert his mother is Christina neé Morrison
The youngest daughter on the 1901 census is Christina Shea Ferguson (cert)
The second youngest son on the 1901 census is George Howie Ferguson (cert)
James Leith Ironside Ferguson and Christina Shea were married 1893 in New Pitsligo. The children are as follows:
Joseph Morrison Ferguson 1893 Bracklaymore (New Aberdour)
Jemima Ferguson 1895 New Aberdour
Mary Ann 1896 new aberdour
George Howie 1899 New aberdour
Christina 1901 Kilmarnock
I would like to know where the name Morrison comes from. Why does Christina's name on Joseph's marriage cert suddenly appear as neé Morrison. Could she have been married before - she was 27 when she had Joseph and married a month before he was born. But I can't find another marriage for her as Morrison or Shea.
Any ideas?
Thank you,
Abiam
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Genealogists never die! They just undertake to join their ancestors!
DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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MonicaLesl
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Just logged on Abiam and saw your post 
Not sure unfortunately whether you will determine why Joseph put the names down for his parents wrong. It wasn't just his mother's name that he put down in error - Shea/Morrison - but he also stated father was John instead of James 
It does happen on certs that parents' details are put down in error. You can understand in death certs when the informant may have made mistakes for a variety of reasons, but for marriages, where the person themselves has given the information on his/her parents, it is harder to figure out the whys 
The good thing is that you have all the supporting evidence for him and his family, particularly those personal family mementos which confirm James and Christina (Shea) as his parents.
Errors on certs do happen every so often - and it's a pain when they do!
Monica
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Abiam
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Thanks Monica,
The Morrison bit was getting to me. I think you are right and it's good to get reassurance that you are not going round the bend!
The other problem is the dear lady Christina herself. Was she born in Strichen or King Edward?
Any help on that would be great,
Thanks,
Abiam
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Genealogists never die! They just undertake to join their ancestors!
DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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MonicaLesl
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From the Common Room post, we had a Christina born to parents Joseph and Mary McKay in 1869 in King Edward. Then a Christina showing to Joseph and likely second wife Helen in 1881 with a birth year c. 1873.
From the Common Room posts, remember we had:
There is a death showing in Strichen for a Mary SHEE MACKAY in 1874, who I would imagine is Christina's mother. Also a death for a baby Christina Shee in 1869 King Edward Aberdeen
So, likely as we thought that first born Christina born in King Edward died as a baby and name reused. There is a birth showing in Strichen on Scotlands People:
1872 Christian Shee in STRICHEN /ABERDEEN - Refs. 241/00 0053
I would think this is the birth entry for Christina, wife of James Ferguson.
Monica
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Abiam
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Thank you Monica, I agree with you. And will go for that. It has been a real learning curve and shown me how little I know about Scotland. It has been so interesting to look up these small villages and plot where they fit with each other. I am hoping to make a map and put in the places wher they all lived. That should keep me out of mischief for a while! 
You have been a great help,
Abiam 
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Genealogists never die! They just undertake to join their ancestors!
DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!
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