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lotsabob1
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Hello, this is my first post here. My Gran's family flicks between Cornwall and Devon, which is fun to trace!
However, I cannot trace her Grandmother Harriett's (bon c.1853, Letchmoor Heath, Herts, according to census returns) maiden name. She married William Landrey, born c.1845 in Millbrook (often written as Cornwall, I know).
I have record of William marrying his first wife, Jane James Leacock, but no record of him marrying Harriett. Harriett died in her 70s in St. Budeaux.
Does anyone know anything of these people, or have any resources that would help track Harriett's maiden name?
It probably doesn't help that Landry is variously spelt that, the correct way, Landrey, Laundry or Laundrey!
Anyway, here's hoping!
Anna
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Paul E
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Hi Anna
There is a website that may help you.
freebmd.rootsweb.com has a lot of birth, marriage and death indexes transcribed (bmd).
When you go to the site, page to the bottom where it says 'search' and click through to the next screen. Enter what details you have and see if you can find a match.
When you get a name / year / location that seems right, click on the right hand volume / page number and it will show you other names on the same page. There's a probability that one of these names is the partner of the person you inputted. Its a popular site, so keep trying!
Let us know how you get on!
cheers
Paul
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Paul E
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Hi Anna
I just had a look at the freebmd site for you, using a phonetic search for William Landrey (that hunts down all the variants you listed). Unfortunately, there's nothing coming up showing a page with a Harriet on.
This could mean that the record hasn't yet been transcribed, however, or that she was using a different first name / middle name.
Have you any other information on Harriet and William?
What census return(s) did you find Harriett on?
It may be that with some further info we can tarack her down on earlier census returns.
best wishes
Paul
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janan
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Hi Anna,
I did a search for Harriets age 17, 18 and 19 born Letchmore or Letchmoor Heath and this is the only young lady who popped up as a possible candidate. However bear it in mind that the 1871 is only partially indexed and also she may have given another place of birth so might not be your Harriet. Regards Jan
Harriet Hill 18 Letchmore Heath, Hertfordshire Servant
Living at 138 High St Watford Hertfordshire in household of James Smith widr 81 retired paper maunfacturer.
Interestingly just him and 2 servants to look after him.
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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lotsabob1
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Thank you to Paul, and to Emma and Janan,
I really appreciate your responses.
Paul, Like you, I couldn't find anything on freeBMD.
Janan - I am a bit vague this moring. In my absence, I seem to have confirmed Harriett's maiden name as Hill. Her son was called Harold Hill Landrey (which I neglected to mention in my original post), so I had tried searching for a Harriett Hill before, on the assumption that his middle name may have been her maiden name. And I had had no joy. But a snippet of family tree from my Gran's cousin this weekend seems to confirm Harriett as a Hill. Which, this makes your look-up all the more likely to be my Harriett! So thank you very much...just need to find her in 1881 now! She ended up a midwife, I know that much, and would have married William Landrey between 1881 and 1884, probably in Devon, as that's where he was living with his four children from his first marriage.
IF ONLY I could find the 1861 for her, because then I'd have some information on her family...I'll pop over to the Hertfordshire board...
Thank you all,
Anna
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janan
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Hi again,
This looks like her in 1881. Wonder why she moved to Cornwall in the first place. Regards Jan 
In household of Henry Willcocks of Dean St Liskeard Cornwall
Harriett HILL Serv Unm 29 General Servant Aldenham, Hertford General Servant
RG11/2286 Folio 8 Pg 10
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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lotsabob1
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Thanks Jan - yes, I saw that one in 1881...I'd wondered, though the place of birth is suddenly different (could have been relayed by the head of household though, who may have made a slight error). But I'd thought that in 1881 she would have been a midwife, as I think she was when she met William Landrey. That would have been between 1881 when his first wife died, and 1884 when Harriett and William's first child was born...
Still, I don't know much about midwifery, how much training was needed, or did she just find out it was something she was good at!?...good fun learning though!
Anna
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janan
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Hi Anna
Aldenham is very close to Letchmore Heath, so wouldn't worry too much about that. I have someone who gives a different place of birth (villages all close to eachother) on every census. As for midwives http://www.rcm.org.uk/data/about/data/general/history.htm is worth a read. Regards Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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lotsabob1
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Thank you Jan, that's good to know, I guess she may have just stumbled into midwifery as I guess people did before there was proper training.
Having the information you gave that Harriet appears to have been in service in Liskeard in 1881, I have a Harriet Hill on freeBMD marrying in liskeard in 1882...I think I'll just order the certificate and have done with it, see if it's William Landrey that this Harriet Hill married! Because he doesn't seem to have been transcribed in a marriage during the same period, but who knows why...it's not too expensive to find out...
thank you for your help!
Anna
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lotsabob1
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Jan,
is there any chance you can give me the name of the other servant in the 1871 look-up?
Good news - I have found that my Harriet's name definitely was Hill, I have the marriage certificate on the way but found from 1837online.com that William Landrey appears on the same page as her!!!
So now what I'm trying to do is fill in a bit of background and see whether William (from Devonport) had a specific link to Liskeard, where he must have met and married Harriet in 1882. Of course they may have just met socially, but I think one of William's brothers appears to have died in liskeard, so possibly a link there...but I have nothing on him between 1901 and his death in 1927!
All good fun though!
Anna
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janan
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I'll take a look for you Anna. Jan
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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lotsabob1
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Thanks Jan, much appreciated, I've got the full listing for her in 1881,
Can't tell you how chuffed I was last night to find it was definitely her (I'm sure you know!). I let my Gran know...it means I'm going to have a lot more to go on now in finding her parents etc. Previously Harriett was the shortet branch of my family tree!
thank you!
Anna
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janan
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Hi again Anna
Always exciting when things fall into place.  Here is the other servant in 1871, sadly no neat Liskeard links through her or the employer.  regards Jan
Harriet Waterman Servant Unmar 46 Cook Domestic Servant Somerset Portishead
James Smith was born London St Lukes
RG10/1381 ED 5 Folio 113 Pg 2
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM www.nationalarchives.gov.ukbedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell buckinghamshire- pain cambridgeshire- bird, carver hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey derbyshire- allsop, noon devon - griffin, love, rapsey dorset- rendall, gale somerset- rendall, churchill surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge |
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lotsabob1
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Thank you Jan,
ah well, I may never know why she moved to Liskeard, or how William came to meet her there...but little bits are falling in to place which is very exciting,
I appreciate your help though, thank you!
Anna
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