angel00
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WOOD
« on: Thursday 29 January 09 23:27 UTC (UK) » |
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I'm trying to find more information on my great grandfather John Frederick Wood born abt 1896. He married Edith Holt in 1919 at Stockport, he was listed as 23 and his father Frederick Wood, commerical traveller. He was listed as living at 107 Aswood Lane West.
I've found him on the 1911 census living at the same address but only with his mother Elizabeth wood aged 43, Widow, former hat trimmer and her other son Herbert Wood aged 14. Both John and Herbert were listed as being born in Sheffield (although I'm having trouble finding their birth certs) and Elizabeth born in Furness Vale... I think her maiden name may have been 'penny'
I'm also having trouble finding a death cert for Frederick Wood, but know he had died by the time the 1911 census came about. Also not managed to find a marrage for Fred and Liz yet.
Any help or advise on where I go from here, would be really appreciated...
Rebecca x
(*) Moderator Comment: Topics Merged to avoid duplication.
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suzard
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do you have this?
1901
20 Adswood? Lane West
Eliabeth wood head m 36 hat trimmer (at home) Furness vale Derby
herbert son 7 Sheffield yorks
John F son Sheffield Yorks
RG13 3294 56 29
not much help with the father though!!!!!
Suz
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angel00
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Re: WOOD
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 January 09 23:42 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi thanks for the response, yes I had this as one of my options originally but the address was 20, rather than 107... so had to pay to check the 1911 where they were living at the exact address as the marriage cert of 107 Adswood Lane West. But yes same family.
My brick wall is finding the correct birth/death certs for John F Wood and Frederick. Any suggestions??
Rebecca x
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angel00
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Hi
Yes thanks, what a quick response, really appreciated!
The 1911 states that Elizabeth is a widow, so i'm tipping this could be the reason Frederick isnt around in 1901. Could be other reasons too I suppose... as he is stated as a commerical traveller on John's marriage cert in 1919 (but doesnt say deceased? Is this normal?)
I think this is the correct family as in 1911 the address is exactly the same as in 1919 marriage cert. Do you think the 1901 census has the no wrong (ie no 20 instead of 107?) either way both are living in the same street?
I have found a few deaths in Sheffield dated 1910 is there anyway other than ordering the certs to find out?
Somebody on genes/Ancestry has suggested emailing the registry office giving details? Has anyone tried this?
Rebecca x
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Ruskie
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Re: WOOD
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 29 January 09 23:49 UTC (UK) » |
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Births Sept 1896
Wood John Frederick
district Rotherham
9c 711
What do you think Rebecca?
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Ruskie
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Re: WOOD
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 29 January 09 23:53 UTC (UK) » |
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and .... ? 
Births Dec 1897
Wood Herbert
Sheffield
9c 598
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CaroleW
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Thanks Pauline
This message has been posted on 3 different board which only causes confusion and duplicated efforts.
As the family were living in Cheshire in 1911 and at the time of John's marriage in 1919 - it would seem sensible to ask the moderator to merge the other replies with the Cheshire post and close the Lancashire and Yorkshire topics to prevent any further duplication
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Maggie.
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Hi Rebecca,
Just found a birth for a John Frederick in Rotherham but note that you now have these details on the other thread.
I believe it is not uncommon for the father to sometimes not be noted as deceased on a marriage certificate - I have a few examples.
Maggie
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ROSTHORN - Blackburn, Accrington 18/19C; TAYLOR - Accrington, Goodshaw, Edgworth 18/19C; HARGREAVES - Midgley, Southowram, Halifax; KIDD - Knaresborough, York; SIMONETT - Sheffield, Bradford, poss. French Huguenot; NICHOLSON and JARDINE - Tinwald, Dumfriesshire, ENTWISTLE - Edgworth; LOWE - Edgeworth; GILL - Accrington, Liverpool, Blackburn all 18/19C. ~~~~~~ Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.go |
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Ruskie
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Re: WOOD
« Reply #11 on: Friday 30 January 09 00:13 UTC (UK) » |
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You mentioned that Elizabeth's surname may be Penny. I don't know where you got that from, but I found this birth:
Births Mar 1865
Penny Elizabeth
Hayfield
7b 643
Elizabeth said she was born in Furness Vale, Derbyshire (which is between New Mills and Whalley Bridge). The Hayfield registration district covers Mew Mills and Whalley Bridge.
Wonder if this might be her? 
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Re: WOOD
« Reply #12 on: Friday 30 January 09 00:17 UTC (UK) » |
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Still can't see a marriage for Elizabeth and Frederick Wood ....
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Re: WOOD
« Reply #13 on: Friday 30 January 09 00:42 UTC (UK) » |
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I wonder if this is the right family:
1881
Mar...(transcribed as Marler) Terrace
Newton
Cheshire
Daniel Penny head 57 cotton weaver b Cheshire Stockport
Margt wife 47 b Yks Halifax
Richard son 22 coal miner b Stockport
Eliza daur 18 cotton weaver b Derbyshire Furness Vale
Elizabeth 17 cotton weaver b Furness Vale
Ellen 14 gen servt domestic b New Mills
Robert son 12 b New Mills
Aaron son 8 b Cheshire Newton
RG11/4049/35/44
(I can't see them in 1871)
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Re: WOOD
« Reply #14 on: Friday 30 January 09 01:01 UTC (UK) » |
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Found this family in 1871:
? ?ees Fold
Newton
Daniel Penney head mar 37 b Stockport
Margaret wife 35 b Po??(cannot read the rest, but transcribed as Portsmouth??!)
Sarah daur 15 cotton weaver b Stockport
Richard son 12 1/2 time cotton weaver b Stockport
Eliza daur 9 b Furness Cheshire
Elizth daur 7 b Furness Cheshrie
Ellen 4 b New Mills Derbyshire
Robert son 1 b New Mills
RG10/4080/108/17
[I know there is a Furness in Cheshire but this may be an enumerator error and meant to be Furness in Derbyshire, since other two chidlren are born Derbyshire]
Also found this possible marriage in Mar 1855:
Margaret Meah and Daniel Penney on same page
Stockport 8a 29
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