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hinderR06
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Help with a place name
« on: Friday 30 January 09 17:58 UTC (UK) »

Hi there, I'm looking for information on a Richard H Price, born about 1860, in a place called Lundier in Radnorshire. I also know that Richard had a brother called David, born about 1859, in Builth. Jean
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CaroleW
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Re: Help with a place name
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 January 09 18:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi

Do you know his parents names or the name of his father from his marriage cert

I have checked freebmd births 1858-1862 and although there are births shown for Richard Price in Radnor - none were Richard H
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Re: Help with a place name
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 January 09 18:30 UTC (UK) »

The 1881 just shows Richard - what documentation did the H come from
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Re: Help with a place name
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 January 09 18:41 UTC (UK) »

If I have the right 1891 entry - he now says he was b Builth

2 Powell St Gelligaer

Richard Price 30 coalminer b Builth Breconshire
Susan b Glamorgan Merthyr
David S 9 b Dowlais
Annie 8         ditto
Richard T 6 b Gelligaer
Emma 4          ditto
John 1             ditto
RG12; Piece: 4432; Folio 55; Page 16

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hinderR06
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Re: Help with a place name
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 January 09 18:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi there, sorry, David's son was Richard H. The Richard you have found is the right one. I'm trying to find Richards and Davids parents. Jean
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Re: Help with a place name
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 January 09 19:00 UTC (UK) »

If you got the birthplace of Lundier from the 1881 census entry (as I did) then the 1891 entry I showed above is the same person

15 Catholic Row(Gellifaelog Cottage) Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan,

Richard PRICE  21  b Lundier, Radnorshire Steel Melter     
Susan PRICE  19  b Troedyrhiw, Glamorgan

There is a Richard Henry Price marriage in 1896 in Merthyr to  Gwenllian Annie Hopkins but he was b Cardiff 1873 according to the 1901 census

That is the only Richard H Price marriage in Wales between 1878 - 1896

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Re: Help with a place name
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 January 09 19:04 UTC (UK) »

I think you have amended your previous post so my reply above does not now refer.

The 1901 again shows his birthplace as Builth
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Re: Help with a place name
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 January 09 19:08 UTC (UK) »

If brother David was a lot older than him - this could be the family but I suspect it was a second marriage

1861 for Breconshire St John - children all b St John

Richard Price 57 shoemaker b Merthyr
Mary 37 b Battle
David 18
Sarah 4
Mary 1
Richard 1 month
RG9; Piece: 4212; Folio: 52; Page: 23

I need to check the 1851
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Re: Help with a place name
« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 January 09 19:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi, I'm really sorry about that, as I said I am trying to find Richards parents. Thanks for all your help. Jean
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Re: Help with a place name
« Reply #9 on: Friday 30 January 09 19:13 UTC (UK) »

I found David and family on the 1891 census, his birth was down as 1858, David died that year. Jean
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Re: Help with a place name
« Reply #10 on: Friday 30 January 09 19:24 UTC (UK) »

Hi

To find his parents we have to first establish where he was born and there is a conflict between the 1881 census birthplace and later birthplaces

There is no 1861 entry for a David Price b Builth and the only 1861 for a Richard Price b Breconshire is the one listed above

Are you sure that Richard and David were brothers?

I think you need a copy of Richards marriage cert to Susan to establish his fathers name and occupation

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Re: Help with a place name
« Reply #11 on: Friday 30 January 09 19:30 UTC (UK) »

If you look on the 1901 census, two of David boys are living with Richard and family, they have them down as nephews. Jean
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Re: Help with a place name
« Reply #12 on: Monday 02 February 09 20:34 UTC (UK) »


Lundier = Llanddewi'r-Cwm?
 It's two miles from Builth.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/LlanddewirCwm/Gaz1868.html
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