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Trees
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old brackley Pub
« on: Sunday 01 February 09 21:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi does anyone have any information about "THE Flying Horse Inn" High Street Brackley please?
I have found Sarah WAGSTAFF living there in 1861 and described as Victualler's Wife. Her husband George was with his parents in Aynho described as a Baker.
This is the only evidence i have of George ever being a publican
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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 February 09 13:28 UTC (UK) »

Hi Trees Smiley

does this link help?

I g**gled and this came up .... maybe they can help further.

http://www.northants-familytree.net/northampton%20town%20late%20victorian%20map%20pubs.htm

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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 February 09 13:52 UTC (UK) »

Ooh thats a nice map I've bookmarked it I have at least one pub in Northampton town I wonder if the site would know the Brackley Flying Horse I'll give them an e mail Thanks Deb
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 February 09 16:33 UTC (UK) »

Hi Trees/Deb

I rang the Tourist Information Centre at Brackley to see if they knew where the
premises would have been as they are long gone. They did not.

The High Street runs for quite along way through the Town and it could
have been any of Inns, Beer houses.

I checked the 1874 Directory and no mention of the building although there
was a place called the Horse and Jockey, no street name though.

Hopefully someone may live in the area and be able to assist more.

Sandy

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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 February 09 16:50 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Sandy I didn't think of the tourist Office  I'll remember that they can be a useful source of information. So its not still around that would explain why I'm not getting anything turn up on the net I think I'll ring the RO in Northampton. I can't think why I have only the one reference  and then George was only 25.
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 February 09 16:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi Trees

I was given a contact name and phone number by the Tourist Information.

I will P.M. them to you in case you would prefer to talk to them yourself.

Sandy
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 February 09 09:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi Trees  Smiley

I Live very close to Brackley and would be very happy to research this query for you.

I do know there is no longer a pub of that name in Brackley  so I will start making enquiries.

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 February 09 09:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi Fue thanks for the offer they are a bit of a mystery.
Any thing you can find would be great the Wagstaffs were very Young newly weds and couldn't have been at the pub long They married in 1856 and had a daughter in 1859 in Aynho
Then they seem to have a son in 1868 in Cirencester and  George has changed from a baker to a grocers porter all very strange I just wonder what their connection with the pub was
This is the only connection I can find on line;
1861 census
RG 9/ 921 fo 42 p14   ed: Brackley, Brackley 3
p[t]: Saint Peter, c/mb: -, mw: -, pb: -, t: Brackley, h/t: -, EccD: -
sch:85 High Street, “Flying Horse” Inn
Sarah WAGSTAFF   Wife   Mar   25   Victuallers Wife   Oxon Yarnton
Elizabeth      Daur      2         North Aynhoe
Mary SMITH   Serv   Un   16   General Serv   North Aynhoe

RG 9/ 921 fo  9 p11   ed: Brackley, Brackley 1
p[t]: -, c/mb: -, mw: -, pb: -, t: -, h/t: -, EccD: -
sch:59 Aynho
Thomas WAGSTAFF   Head   Mar   65   Gardener      Northamptonshire Aynho
Ann         Wife   Mar   59         Oxfordshire Chesterton
George         Son   Mar   24   Baker      Northamptonshire Aynho

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Re: old brackley Pub
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 February 09 10:04 UTC (UK) »

Hi Trees

I guess that means that the lady from the Brackley History Group
wasn't able to help you then.

Hope Fue has better luck for you.

Sandy

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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 22 February 09 11:42 UTC (UK) »

Well not as yet I wrote ages ago but I'llsend a reminder later today Thanks for reminding me Sandy
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 22:08 UTC (UK) »

Hi Trees

I went to Brackley Library and unfortunately was unable to find any info however, I will go again to do some further reading to make sure.  They have a nice collection of Brackley High Street photos but again no luck.

Having read Debs's post, I have worked out possibly where the pub would have been.

Here is a  google picture but I will go tomorrow to Brackley and take a more direct photo for you.

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/5716837.jpg

Knowing of course that building numbers might have been changed, 25 Market Place is now an Age Concern Shop (see Northampton & County and PJ Cars Taxi in the picture).

In the absence of any info, I hope this of some use to you. I hope to be going to the Northampton Records office in the near future and I will check the records there also.

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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 22:19 UTC (UK) »

Thank Fue what a nice Georgian town it looks we must make a point of stopping a while next time Sapling goes to Silverstone I think the 65 was the schedule number not the street number I have another look and see if there are any clues in the nearby census entries
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Re: old brackley Pub
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 25 February 09 23:10 UTC (UK) »

No, I do believe that the link that Deb gave on the earlier post gives the actual building number and street, but I could be wrong.

Yes Brackley is just off the roundabout of the A43 and is a lovely high street, shame that so many shops are closing down on it Sad

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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 26 February 09 09:06 UTC (UK) »

Sorry Fue I thought the map Deb sent was Northamptons not Brackley  I am having a senior moment and missing something here please point me in the right direction
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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 26 February 09 09:14 UTC (UK) »

HI Trees

Nice to see Fue has gone out of her way to assist you.

The link to the Public Houses from Deb is for Northampton Town only.

Sandy

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