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patvp1
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Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« on: Sunday 01 February 09 23:49 UTC (UK) »
Hi everyone, and another query.
Obtained the death cert of Margaret Stewart born 1863 Thornhill, parents Robert Stewart and Jane Ferguson.
Was quite surprised to find it actually as it was a long shot...
Also VERY surprised to find she had been married 1st to John Connelly and 2nd to James King, she died in Deanston Kilmadock in 1941 age 79 informant being James Connolly (son).
Problem is I can find no marriage for her and John Connelly, they had three children (according to Ancestry) Patrick 1881 born Doune, Robert 1889 born Doune and James 1890 also born Doune.
I do have a marriage for her and James King in 1895 and she is still using the name Stewart Huh?
Have Also looked for a death for John Connelly with no luck.
Found them on the 1891 census at Sweety Lane Doune..but can find nothing ater that  Huh
These Stewart's drive me nuts  Roll Eyes
Can anyone help PLEASE.
patvp
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Hall (Dunblane) Robertson (Clackmannanshire) Sneddon (Clackmannan) Cramb (Perthshire) Marshall (Clackmmannan) Michie (Clackmannan) Stewart (Perthshire) Ferguson (Perthshire) McKay (Perthshire) McLaren (Perthshire) Moir (Perthshire)
MonicaLesl
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Re: Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« Reply #1 on: Monday 02 February 09 10:28 UTC (UK) »
Hi Pat

Have you tried looking at the birth certs. of one of the Connolly children from the 1880/90s to see whether it shows place and date of marriage of parents?

Monica  Smiley
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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MonicaLesl
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Re: Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 February 09 10:36 UTC (UK) »
 Smiley This looks like the marriage Pat:

1887 John Connelly and Maggie Stewart in Kilmadock ref. 362/00 0016

The children's births seem to be showing as Connelly from the general searches on SP for births.

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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MonicaLesl
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Re: Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 February 09 10:39 UTC (UK) »
Possible death for John Connelly in 1893, Kilmadock, ref:362/00 0043, age 33 (he showed as age 32 in 1901).

Monica    

Added: John's surname is showing as Connely (single L on the index)
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
patvp1
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Re: Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 February 09 10:51 UTC (UK) »
Hi Monica good to talk to you again  Grin
Now if I can get a word in edgewise  Grin Hmmm looks as tho'Patrick the eldest may have been illegitimate he was born in 1881 either that or he was from a previous relationship ??
I was going to check on the children's birth cert's but had run out of credits at SP so will have to wait until pension day this week LOL.
Do not know how come I have not checked the other siblings before now, must have had a memory lapse, these are more frequent at my age  Roll Eyes
so am also looking for Isabella c1865 at Kilmadock and Duncan 1870 also Kilmadock, I know Isabella is home in the 1881 but missing after that and Duncan is home in the 1891 but am damned if I can find either of them in the 1901..and so we plod along.
Thank you so much for that information, as usual you have come up trumps..patvp
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MonicaLesl
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Re: Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 February 09 11:29 UTC (UK) »
Pat

This could be a marriage for Isabella:

1888 to John Balfour in Kilmadock (ref:362/00 0006)

And very possibly in the 1891:

John Balfour 31, engine fitter, b. Glasgow
Isabella Balfour 25, cotton rover, b. Thornhill, Perthshire
Walter Balfour 2, b. Kilmadock, Perthshire
Robert Balfour 1, b. Kilmadock, Perthshire
Robert Stewart 32, iron moulder, Kilmadock, Perthshire ....looks like brother Robert in case you were looking for him too  Wink

Address: 150 Park St, Govan

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
MonicaLesl
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Re: Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 February 09 11:33 UTC (UK) »
The Balfours in 1901:

John Balfour 41, engine fitter, b. Glasgow
Isabella Balfour 35, b. Thornhill, Perthshire
Robert Balfour    11, b. Deanston, Perthshhire
John Balfour 3, b. Glasgow

Address:6 Marlow St, Govan

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
patvp1
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Re: Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 February 09 11:47 UTC (UK) »
Terrific, and thanks as always Monica..HOW DO YOU DO THAT  Grin will now check them out on SP at the end of the week, so very many thanks..it is now nearly 10pm in this neck of the woods and very hot and muggy and more rain predicted..no more please...!! am going to bed with the air-con on.
Once again thank you..patvp
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Hall (Dunblane) Robertson (Clackmannanshire) Sneddon (Clackmannan) Cramb (Perthshire) Marshall (Clackmmannan) Michie (Clackmannan) Stewart (Perthshire) Ferguson (Perthshire) McKay (Perthshire) McLaren (Perthshire) Moir (Perthshire)
MonicaLesl
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Re: Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 February 09 11:52 UTC (UK) »
Think of us in Blizzard country - I have never seen a heavier snowfall in Central London as in the last 18 hrs - even the schools are shut  Shocked My three have just come in from a snowball fight  Grin For London children, they are in seventh heaven!

One last one for you...Duncan is still at home with parents in 1901:

Robert Stewart 77, blacksmith, b. Kincardine Perth
Jane Stewart 75, b. Kincardine Perth
Duncan Stewart 34, blacksmith, b. Kincardine Perth
John Stewart 28, blacksmith, b. Kincardine Perth
Daniel Robertson 31, visitor
Maggie Kenny48, servant
Duncan Fork 17, servant
Robert Maswell 10, nephew
Peter Maswell 3, nephew

Address: Kincardine Smithy 

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
patvp1
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Re: Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« Reply #9 on: Monday 02 February 09 12:43 UTC (UK) »
Thought for a minute we had a break through, not the case, this Robert Stewart not mine..he died in 1898.
Dates and places of birth seem to vary.
between 1827/1828/1829 and 1831 as do places of birth the 1829 being Edinburgh and the other census Bannockburn Stirlingshire..have never been able to pin him down and have never found a birth for him, on his death cert it said his parents were Robert Stewart and Ann Denovan info given by son-in-law, so that could be wrong mores the pity.
Back to the drawing board
 Embarrassed patvp
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MonicaLesl
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Re: Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« Reply #10 on: Monday 02 February 09 14:49 UTC (UK) »
Pat

I'm confused  Embarrassed Was this family headed by Robert Snr.., the iron founder/ blacksmith, the wrong family - i.e the wrong Robert Snr.? He obviously died after 1901 from the census entry we have in Kircardine Smithy (was this in 1908 from your previous posts?). This Robert looks to have been married to Jane Ferguson according to their children's births, which connects with your research.

...But, you also say that your Robert died in 1898 in previous posts?

Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« Reply #11 on: Monday 02 February 09 21:22 UTC (UK) »
Sorry for the confusion Monica, following in a nutshell, this is my Stewart family.

Robert Stewart m Jane Ferguson 1853 Glasgow.
Children -

Jane Stewart c1854 m James McKay (my g/g/grandparents)
John c 1855 - I know nothing of him.
Robert c1858 we have him up to 1891.
Annie c1860 m John Glen (she and her children with the Stewarts on the 1891 census.
Maggie c1862 m John Connelly then King.
Isabella c1865 m John Balfour.
Janet Ann c1867 m Peter McGregor Stewart
Duncan c1870 at home in 1891 after that unkown.

Jane Ferguson died 1891 Kilmadock info Robert Stewart.
Robert Stewart died 1898 Kilmadock info Peter McGregor Stewart.

1891 census includes apart from Robert Stewart and Jane Ferguson, Annie Glen with her family, Jane McKay daughter of James and Jane McKay, and another g/daughter Jane Brownlie c1884 Kilmadock whom I have not been able to find either  Huh
Have assumed they all came home as Jane Ferguson (mother) was either sick or dying.

As I said in previous posts about Robert Stewart, take your pick. as to date of birth or even place of birth..he will probably remain my brick wall.

See what you mean about snow - cousin Ian sent photo's this morning.  Now am off to the Dr's more tests and x-rays..god I hate getting old LOL..patvp
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MonicaLesl
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Re: Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« Reply #12 on: Monday 02 February 09 22:11 UTC (UK) »
Hi Pat

Pity son John's birth from late 1855 was not registered until Jan 1856...thereby losing lots of info about about the parents  Undecided Not that it will probably help, but just in case, what occupation showed on Robert's father, Robert, on his 1898 DC?

Monica

Hope Doctor goes well Pat  Smiley
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 03 February 09 04:01 UTC (UK) »
Had the x-rays, now have to wait for results next week..ho-hum.
Re Robert Stewarts death cert, he is listed as occupation labourer although 1891 census he is an ïron dresser",
age at death 68 which would make date of birth 1830, widower of Jean/Jane Ferguson, parents Robert Stewart (crofter) deceased and Ann Stewart nee Denovan deceased, informant Peter Stewart son-in-law, description of death about noon at Deanston Factory, Deanston, Kilmadock.
May have a fiddle around this afternoon and see if I can find anymore.
Hope you are tucked up and warm LOL.
Regards patvp
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Re: Margaret Stewart/Connelly/King
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 February 09 17:31 UTC (UK) »
Hi Pat
I have tried to find maggie Stewart in a census by putting in her birthdate and place of birth as Thornhill but cant find her! Can you help point me in the right direction to find her eg in the 1871 census?
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