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Roycar
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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #30 on: Friday 13 February 09 14:55 UTC (UK) »
Ibi
I know you have access to earlier English census's, would there be any clues on those although I have no idea when Henry died, there might be something. I guess they would be in the Hull area if you haven't been able to find anything in Scotland.
I am clutching at straws now!
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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #31 on: Friday 13 February 09 16:23 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Roycar on Friday 13 February 09 14:55 UTC (UK)
Ibi
I know you have access to earlier English census's, would there be any clues on those although I have no idea when Henry died, there might be something. I guess they would be in the Hull area if you haven't been able to find anything in Scotland.
I am clutching at straws now!
Carole

Hi Carole

I'd be near certain that Gadget has already covered all English and Welsh censuses !

Orraverybest

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Roycar
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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #32 on: Friday 13 February 09 16:47 UTC (UK) »
I give up!!

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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #33 on: Friday 13 February 09 16:54 UTC (UK) »
I've found a Henry Bedford on the 1861 in Edinburgh.

5 Riddles Close, Edinburgh
Parish  685/4 ED 45 Page 14

James Storie, head, 28, joiner, b. Edinburgh

others.....................

Henry Bedford, lodger, 32, wire worker, b. Birmingham


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Roycar
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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #34 on: Friday 13 February 09 18:31 UTC (UK) »
That looks promising.
I wonder if we could find a marriage for him.
Like you said earlier, Gadget - it ain't easy!

Carole
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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #35 on: Friday 13 February 09 18:34 UTC (UK) »
Hi Carole

There is another scenario. Henry Bedford could be her father but her parents never married. It was quite usual for children to be called by their father's surname. 

Alternative,y, the marriage forms in Scotland were much more lenient that in England and Wales. Ibi will fill you in on the various marriage forms - he and JAP are the experts  Smiley

I'll check for a marriage again but I'm sure that I looked before - so many looks that I can't remember what I've done  Undecided


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Roycar
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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #36 on: Friday 13 February 09 19:02 UTC (UK) »
Thanks for all your help Gadget, everyone has been really helpful on this one - what a shame all of your efforts have been in vain.
Carole
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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #37 on: Friday 13 February 09 20:12 UTC (UK) »
Don't give up, Carole.

Nothing is in vain. We've added to the collection of info about various people on this thread  Smiley

Also, although I have a few brick walls in my tree, I always reckon that someday, somewhere, I'll find something.

I'll have another look.


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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #38 on: Friday 13 February 09 23:05 UTC (UK) »
Hi Carole

There are quite a few Bedfords in Sculcoates on the 1881 - some b. Hull - on the 1881 census. It might be worth you having a look at them on the  the LDS site (free 1881 census index)  to see if there's anything that might link up.


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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #39 on: Friday 13 February 09 23:15 UTC (UK) »
This might or might not be relevant:

1871
3 Masonic Terrace, West Sculcoates
RG10/4783 F 82 P 26

Henry Bedford, 34, oil miller, b. Yorks, Leeds
Mary Bedford, 32, b. Yorks, Hull


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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #40 on: Friday 13 February 09 23:34 UTC (UK) »
Also:

1861

1 Pheonic Court, Sculcoates
RG9/3586 F 71 Page 17

Bedford
Henry, 37, joiner, b. Nottingham
Jane Ann, 32
Mary Ann, 9
Henry, 7
Martha, 5
Thomas, 1

All except Henry b. Hull
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Roycar
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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 14 February 09 10:26 UTC (UK) »
Thank you Gadget, both these look interesting. I will investigate further.
I have a friend in Hull who can look on the Burgess Roll.
The marriage cert says Eleanor and George's address was Stepney Lane so he should be able to work backwards to see if they turn up at either of the ones you gave me.
I can see light at the end of the tunnel!!
Regards
Carole
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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 14 February 09 10:47 UTC (UK) »
We can forget the last message. I have been in touch with my friend and the department dealing with the Burgess Roll in Hull Library is closed for about 12 months!
Carole
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Thompson - Hull and Gillingham Kent
Holderness - Fangfoss
Twilton - Yorkshire
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Ramsdale - York
Harvey - Scotland and Hull
Farrant - Devon
Roycar
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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 14 February 09 11:03 UTC (UK) »
I,m beginning to think that Sculcoates has been misread as Scotland!

Carole
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Thompson - Hull and Gillingham Kent
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Twilton - Yorkshire
Granger - Scotland
Ramsdale - York
Harvey - Scotland and Hull
Farrant - Devon
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Re: Eleanora Louise Bedford
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 14 February 09 12:08 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: Gadget on Friday 13 February 09 18:34 UTC (UK)
Hi Carole

....snipped........

Alternative,y, the marriage forms in Scotland were much more lenient that in England and Wales. Ibi will fill you in on the various marriage forms - he and JAP are the experts  Smiley

.....snipped .............

Gadget

See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,348725.0.html

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