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Topic: Minnigaff Lookup (Read 990 times)
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woolley
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Hi Gadget
Just seen your look up offer,
would it be possible to do a look up for a Agnes McDowal or McDowall born 1838 in Minnigaff
Thanks
Woolley
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Derbyshire - Woolley,Newton,Ratcliffe,Brown,Moore,Wright,Rowland,Leech,Leach
Norfolk - Chandler,Dixon, Moore, Bone, Payne
Notts - Ward,Walters,Browne,Norman,Lee
Yorks - Robinson,Owram, Beck, Micklethwaite
Scotland - McDowall
Ireland - Hassett
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Gadget
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Of course, Woolley. I'll have a look shortly.
That name's familiar 
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Gadget
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Hi Woolley
There are quite a few McDowal (variations) and some Agneses but none seem to fit very closely with your Agnes. Do you have any details of any other of her family?
Gadget
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woolley
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Thats all I, ve got, maiden name from the birth cert of one of her children, although I believe she married in 1855 to a Micheal Hassett, not sure where - so it still loooks like a brick wall
Cheers
Woolley
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Derbyshire - Woolley,Newton,Ratcliffe,Brown,Moore,Wright,Rowland,Leech,Leach
Norfolk - Chandler,Dixon, Moore, Bone, Payne
Notts - Ward,Walters,Browne,Norman,Lee
Yorks - Robinson,Owram, Beck, Micklethwaite
Scotland - McDowall
Ireland - Hassett
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Gadget
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If she married in 1855 in Scotland, there should be quite a bit of info on a marriage cert - have you tried Scotlands People?
I'm just seeing if I can find her on the 1841 census.
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Gadget
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The most likely family is living in Creetown (Kirkmabreck parish) which is adjacent to Minnigaff:
St John's St, Creetown
873 ED 8 P 8
Agnes McDowall, 35, pauper
Janet, 13
James, 10
Isabella, 7
Agnes, 4
John, 6
Margaret Hutton, 65
all b. Kirkcudbrightshire
I'll see if I can find anything on the 1851.
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woolley
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She had 2 children born in scotland John born 1855 Airslere, Scotland and James born 1858 Riccarton, Scotland. All the family first appearred in the 1871 English Census.
I've had no success tracing them in Scotland todate
Woolley
Just seen you're latest reply - interesting
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Suffolk - Reynolds,Bishop,Peck,Burrows,Smith,Chittock,Gardner,Adams
Derbyshire - Woolley,Newton,Ratcliffe,Brown,Moore,Wright,Rowland,Leech,Leach
Norfolk - Chandler,Dixon, Moore, Bone, Payne
Notts - Ward,Walters,Browne,Norman,Lee
Yorks - Robinson,Owram, Beck, Micklethwaite
Scotland - McDowall
Ireland - Hassett
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Gadget
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The family could have been non-C of Scotland which might explain her baptism not appearing. I can't find a marriage but again it could have been a non-C of Scotland one and not appear. JAP has a good account of these marriages , referenced here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,348725.msg2272828.html#msg2272828
On the 1851, there is a possible in Sorn, Ayrshire, a female servant - right age but born Penninghame, Wigtownshire. Penninghame is the parish next west of Minnigaff.
I can't find the mother, Agnes on the 1851 as yet.
Gadget
PS - I'm trying to find things but SP is running very slow 
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woolley
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Really appreciate what you've found so far, makes me realise how little I know regardings certain areas of research
Back tomorrow
Regards Woolley
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Suffolk - Reynolds,Bishop,Peck,Burrows,Smith,Chittock,Gardner,Adams
Derbyshire - Woolley,Newton,Ratcliffe,Brown,Moore,Wright,Rowland,Leech,Leach
Norfolk - Chandler,Dixon, Moore, Bone, Payne
Notts - Ward,Walters,Browne,Norman,Lee
Yorks - Robinson,Owram, Beck, Micklethwaite
Scotland - McDowall
Ireland - Hassett
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Gadget
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Not much luck so far - I'll see if I can track down any of the siblings.
The 1871 had her as 31 and the eldest two boys b. Renton which I think is in Dunbartonshire
The 1901 has her as 63
Like you - back tomorrow.
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Gadget
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Found the family on the 1851 - still in Kirkmabreck
20 St John's Street, Creetown
873 ED 5 Page 9
Agness McDowall, 47, formerly domestic servant
James, son, 20, labourer
Agness, dau, 14,
Alexander, son, 8
James Calrile, grdson, 2
all b. Kirkmabreck
Quite a lot of McDowalls/alts in Minnigaff on the 1851 but, like the MIs, no Agnes 
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Gadget
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Hi Woolley
I am intrigued by the age gap between the first two children and the second two on the 1871 and wonder if either or both of them might have been married before and come together only a few years before the 1871 census.
I've found this entry on the 1861 census. I think it might be the Creetown Agnes that I've found previously:
1861
Mettingham Castle, Mettingham, Suffolk
RG9/1184 F 197 Page 13
James Cutting Tafford or Tofford, 61, vicar of Mettingham & JP for Suffolk, b. Weybread
Louisa Ta/offord, 58, b. Warwick, Atherstone
Louisa Charters To/afford, 33, b. Suffolk, Beccles?
Agnes McDowell, 25, house servant, b. Scotland, Creetown
Robert Spalding, 15, house servant, b. Suffolk, Lanfield
I love the names 
I haven't yet found her on the 1871 or a marriage
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woolley
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Hopefully this one will post, seems to be a bit busy at the moment
Never thought about it being a second marraige
Mettingham castle history mentions a Rev J Sofford at the time of the census (same one ?)
I,ve also found a possible in the 1861 scottish census under the name Harrett (typo?) Agnes , Micheal and James, so plenty to go at.
Thanks woolley
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Suffolk - Reynolds,Bishop,Peck,Burrows,Smith,Chittock,Gardner,Adams
Derbyshire - Woolley,Newton,Ratcliffe,Brown,Moore,Wright,Rowland,Leech,Leach
Norfolk - Chandler,Dixon, Moore, Bone, Payne
Notts - Ward,Walters,Browne,Norman,Lee
Yorks - Robinson,Owram, Beck, Micklethwaite
Scotland - McDowall
Ireland - Hassett
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Gadget
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That one does fit with Michael's profile on the 1871, Woolley. This time Agnes is b. Wigtown - she got around
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Gadget
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There is a baptism for an Agnes McDowall, Penninghame, Wigtownshire - 8 Nov 1837 Parents - Peter McDowall and Helen Digney.
This would fit with the Agnes that i found on the 1851 in Ayrshire.
Here's a map of the Wigtownshire and Kirkcudbrightshire parishes which shows how close the 4 parishes of Minnigaff, Penninghame, Kirkmabreck and Wigtown are :
http://scotlandsfamily.com/parish-map-wigtown.htm
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