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ozlady
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Rising Sun, Portway
« on: Thursday 05 February 09 02:42 UTC (UK) »

David Leonard Watkins, aged 7, died from whooping cough at the Rising Sun in Portway 26th May 1886. The witness on the death cert. is Eliza Watkins, residing at that address. Does anyone know anything about this establishment or Eliza? I think she might have been an aunt by blood or by marriage.
 
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Watkins, Price Herefordshire
Brannan, Price, GLAM
Edwards, Gardner MON
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Re: Rising Sun, Portway
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 February 09 17:05 UTC (UK) »

Hi ozlady,

There are a couple of Portways in Herefordshire - one near Burghill, the other near Staunton on Wye.  Do you know which Portway?
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ozlady
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Re: Rising Sun, Portway
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 February 09 23:37 UTC (UK) »

It's the Burghill one, it's on the death cert. This has puzzled me for a while. The family were from Wellington so I assume Little David was staying/living with Eliza. Mum was a widow, Dad had died in 1883, brother John was about 17 so would have been working. There were several half brothers and sisters that I'm tracking down.
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Re: Rising Sun, Portway
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 16:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ozlady,

I had assumed that it would be the BUrghill one, and had a look at a couple of online historical directories - but the Rising Sun didn't seem to be mentioned.  If I get a chance, I'll nip into Hereford this week or next and look in the local studies library and see if there is any mention there.

Bit of a mystery!
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ozlady
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Re: Rising Sun, Portway
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 23:25 UTC (UK) »

Thanks, Spidermonkey, that would be great.
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Watkins, Price Herefordshire
Brannan, Price, GLAM
Edwards, Gardner MON
Clark(e) SOM
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Re: Rising Sun, Portway
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 February 09 19:03 UTC (UK) »

No joy I'm afraid.

I looked in 3 trade directories but none of them mentioned a pub called the Rising Sun in Burghill/Portway.

1886 Directory of Hereford, Ross and DIstrict
No Watkins mentioned in Burghill, Portway or TIllington
John Morris is the landlord of the only pub in Portway - the Royal Oak Inn

1891 Kellys Directory
No Watkins in Burghill, Portway or Tillington
Charles Walters is landlord of The Royal Oak P. H.
In Wellington there is a Mrs Watkins at Wellington House, and John Watkins is listed as a carrier
Two Rising Sun pubs are mentioned in Herefordshire - at Longtown, Abergavenny (William Cooper as landlord) and at Peterstow (THomas Hall is landlord)

1896 Kellys Directory
No Watkins in Burghill, Portway or TIllington
George Walters is landlord at Royal Oak
There are no Watkins mentioned in Wellington


I got a book out from the library on Burghill, so I will have a read of that and see if I can see any mention of the Rising Sun or Watkins'

All the best,

Spider
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Re: Rising Sun, Portway
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 September 09 17:22 UTC (UK) »

Hello Ozlady

My name is Richard Watkins, my great grandfather was John James Watkins. His son Thomas Arthur was my grandfather. I was so pleased to see a connection here!

I remember asking my grandfather about his family and he mentioned The Royal Oak pub. I can't remember much more than that I had the feeling there was a publican in the family but I haven't found it.

Guess I'll have to keep paying full price!

I'm starting out on the journey backwards and have got to Mary Watkins b1840 ish and know her husband was called George but he is rather elusive. Could you help in any way?

Kind regards

Richard.

BTW I noticed you mention the Vales in another post. I have a picture that includes a Tommy Vale who was a friend of my grandfathers.
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