MonicaLesl
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I also saw this marriage and wondered if this could be Charlotte's parents:
ISABELLA DODDS and THOMAS TURNBULL
Marriage: 15 FEB 1833 Jedburgh
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It's probably not relevant to this thread, but a WHILLANS is mentioned in an article in the Summer 2009 issue of the Borders Family History Society Magazine.
Eleanor Lillico writes about her great-grandfather Robert Lillico and his brother James who emigrated to Canada in 1845. They were following in the footsteps of their sister Jane who went out with her husband John WHILLANS of Southdean between 1834 and 1837 "... with the Robert WHILLANS' families [sic] who settled in Gloucester Township, Junction Gore (now the Queensway at Hurdman)."
The first child of John WHILLANS and Jane Lillico was born in 1834 in Scotland, the second in 1837 in Canada.
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brina
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Just to confuse everyone I have just received another e-mail from Kalamazoo Library and it reads -
I checked a couple of other sources in our collection and could find no mention of the marriage between Jane Whellans and George Taylor. I did locate Jane’s cemetery listing which lists her as Jane Wallace Taylor and mention of her in another index in our collection that lists her as Jane Williams Taylor. I’m afraid that rather than helping you narrow the search, I’ve only found more name possibilities.
I am just wondering though if Wallace and Williams are meant to be Whellans.
Any ideas gratefully received.
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hdw
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Yes indeed, the name WHELLANS has many variant spellings even in Scotland, and in the States I can imagine that people unfamiliar with it tried to make it into something more familiar and pronounceable.
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MonicaLesl
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Agree Harry, most likely a variant of Whellans!
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I'm sorry Kalamazoo Library couldn't help with the marriage of Jane Whellans to George Taylor.
They could look for George Taylor's marriages - he married Jane in Jan 1863 and later married Susan Carter in 1870.
What about her death certificate? She died in Kalamazoo in October 1863.
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MonicaLesl
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I did wonder about a death cert. Morag. Not sure whether death certificates for this period included details on parents etc. Also, not sure how death entries for this period could be accessed (I know the later ones get very complicated!). Maybe the lady at the library could advice.
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brina
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I will get back to the Kalamazoo library to ask if they can access any of the death records. However they have given me a list of researchers to assist if I wish further information which probably indicates that they have given me as much information or as much of their time as they can. 
I do not really want to go down the road of paying anyone so may have to lay this to rest until further information is available on the internet or until someone else can help us here. 
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I'm sorry you've drawn a blank at Kalamazoo library.
I've emailed George Taylor's gt. gt. gt. grandson in California to ask if he knows how the records system works in America and to ask if he has any more information. He had already sent me the death announcements of GT's wife Jane Dodds from the Kalamazoo Gazette (1860) who died of consumption, TB. His last wife, Susan Carter, died in 1889 and the announcement was in the Kalamazoo Weekly Telegraph.
I wondered if he'd got an announcement about Jane Whellans as he'd
got the one about Susan Carter who isn't related to the present family either.
Another idea would be to try a letter to the local paper in the Borders, the Southern Reporter. I've had a look, " Contributions should be emailed to BOTH derekforrest[at]tweeddalepress.co.uk and susanwindram[at]tweeddalepress.co.uk."
They often publish letters from people looking for ancestors.
I wonder if Kalamazoo has a family history society? Try the web.
I can't think of any more places to look but her birth must be recorded here in Scotland somewhere!
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brina
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I did get back to Kalamazoo Public Library and they have now found Jane Wheelans cemetery listing which they are posting out to me. I am trying not to get too excited about what information might be contained in it but as soon as I do receive it I shall post the information here.
Morag - it would be great if you manage to get more information from George's gt. gt. gt. grandson - thank you so much for contacting him.
What an amazing puzzle this is. 
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MonicaLesl
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Pity they can't send as attachment via email....but then I am so impatient  That's great news Brina, they have been incredibly helpful there
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brina
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Yes Monica I was also hoping for an e-mail attachment but thought I should not chance my luck by requesting the information that way when they had offered to post it. Here's hoping we at least get some info that can be of use.
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brina
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I received an envelope from Kalamazoo Public Library today and could hardly contain myself before opening it and then - what a disappointment! All it contained was a burial record from Mountain Home Cemetery, City of Kalamazoo which lists a Jane Wallace Taylor who died Feb 12 1864. That is all the information on it apart from the Block No. O.P and the Lot No 417.
The local history staff also sent a note to say that their index cards have the same date but for a Jane Williams Taylor.
I was just about to think that this had all been a waste of time because the dates do not match the dates in the book until I noticed the name above Jane's and it is Jane Dodds Taylor and it is the same Lot No. 417. The date on the Burial Record for Jane Dodds is Sept 18 1860.
I then started to look for others buried in Lot No 417 named Taylor and they are: -
Andrew Taylor Aug 1863 (19y 8 m)
George Taylor 31 Aug 1891 (88y 6m)
James A Taylor 15 Jan 1935
John P Taylor 26 Mar 1894 (39 yrs)
So I am now thinking that the person named Jane Wallace (Williams) Taylor is our Jane Whellens after all although I still do not have any more information about her.
Any more suggestions anyone?
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hdw
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Hard luck, Brina, it's horrible when your expectations are high, then you get let down. But at least you're getting mail. Are you in the US? There is a rolling programme of postal strikes in the UK, and here in Edinburgh the postal workers keep having wildcat strikes at the drop of a hat, so I'm waiting impatiently for several items of mail that should have come ages ago. Two of them are of a genealogical nature. Another is an information pack for a charity I expressed an interest in. They are now including me in email shots, but I still haven't received their information pack, let alone confirmed that I'm interested in volunteering!
Back to Whellans - you know how you look up a B., M. or D. certificate on Scotlandspeople and sometimes the other entries on the page are of more interest? Today I was looking up the death of someone called Brydon, and on the same page of the Wilton deaths-register for 1883 there was a death-certificate for Jean CLARK, 42, widow of John CLARK, grocer, daughter of Andrew WHELLANS, general labourer, and Isabella WALKER.
Maybe that will be of interest to somebody.
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brina
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Just found the following on a Kalamazoo Mountain Home Cemetery website: -
Taylor, George Birth:1803 Death:1891 Interment:1/1/1891 Blk:I Sec:417 Lot:1
Taylor, Susan Carter Birth:1821 Death:1889 Interment:1/1/1889 Blk:I Sec:417 Lot:2
Taylor, Andrew Birth:1844 Death:1863 Interment:1/1/1863 Blk:I Sec:417 Lot:3
Taylor, Jane Willence Birth:No Date Death:No Date Interment:1/1/1864 Blk:I Sec:417 Lot:5 Sexton shows maiden name as Wallace
Taylor, John P. Birth:No Date Death:No Date Interment:3/26/1894 Blk:I Sec:417 Lot:6
Taylor, John D. Birth:1855 Death:1894 Interment:3/26/1894 Blk:I Sec:417 Lot:7 Sexton shows middle initial as P.
Taylor, James A. Birth:1849 Death:1935 Interment:1/15/1935 Blk:I Sec:417 Lot:12 Owner of Kalamazoo Nursery - Bedding Plants
Strangely enough Jane Dodds Taylor not mentioned on this one.
I see that our Jane Whellens is now recorded as Willence.
And so it goes on...............
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