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brina
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Hi Harry,
Thanks for your commiserations. I am in the Scottish Borders, Peebles in fact. Interesting about Andrew Whellans, I will keep that in mind in case I need to look at those details some time.
Brina
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morageckford
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Hello Brina
I've been following your search for Jane Whellans and as she didn't go to America until Dec 1862, she must be on the 1861 census here in the Borders, probably Roxburghshire.
She could have been working at Grahamslaw then but there's just a chance she might have been at home with her family. I know this is clutching at straws but you're running out of options!
I'm sure I read somewhere that she was 40 when she died in October 1863 so her birth or christening in 1823 must be recorded - I'd start in Morebattle if the Whellans family lived there. All the records will be in the Heritage Hub in Hawick, you'll get a leaflet at the local tourist office.
Have you asked the Borders Family History Society if any of theit members are researching Whellans or similar names?
Morag
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Morag
As you can see, the search for Jane's origins has continued. Jane does show in 1851 and 1861 censuses, working as a domestic servant/housekeeper, down as born in Jedburgh. From a previous post:
In 1862 Kelso native George Taylor came back to the old country from the States, and - being a widower by then - proposed to Jane Whillans, whom he obviously knew of old. He tells us she "had a good situation as housekeeper at Grahamslaw", and I checked this out in the 1861 census of Eckford parish. Jane was then 35, and claimed to be a native of Jedburgh. A "good situation" indeed - her employer Charles Cunningham, a farmer with 750 acres and 21 farm-workers - was only 18 years old!
Even with all the good material provided by the Kalamazoo Public Library and the further research undertaken by Brina, we are still struggling to connect her to her family 
Good ideas from you regarding possible further research avenues 
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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hdw
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It's a while since we gave the WHILLANS/WHELLANS name an airing, so perhaps the following will be of interest.
I've just been trying to trace marriages and deaths for the 12 brothers and sisters of my great-grandmother Martha STEWART, who was born circa 1853 in Wilton, Hawick.
I knew already that her eldest sister Jane Murray STEWART married a George WHILLANS in 1872 at Upper Samieston, Jedburgh. He was the son of George WHILLANS and Mary OLIVER, and was born in 1844 at Camptown, Jedburgh. I know of descendants of this couple in Jedburgh and on Vancouver Island, Canada.
I haven't found another marriage of a STEWART to a WHILLANS, but it's interesting that in 1891 my Martha's sister Agnes STEWART and her husband John JACKSON are living at Southdean, and their immediate neighbours are James and Elizabeth OLIVER, while the next cottage is occupied by William and Agnes WHILLANS, his mother Agnes WHILLANS, aged 73(?), daughter Janet A. WHILLANS (11 months), niece and nephew Agnes WHILLANS (14) and James WHILLANS (16), and stepson William GRIEVE (6). Quite a household.
I can tell you that William's parents were James WHILLANS and Agnes JACK. William was born in 1856 at Easter Fodderlee, Hobkirk. I haven't tried to trace this family any further back.
William WHILLANS married Agnes GRIEVE in 1890 at Chesters, Southdean. And here's an interesting slant. Agnes GRIEVE bore her illegitimate son William GRIEVE in 1885 at Ladhope, and my great-grandmother's sister Agnes STEWART (later Mrs. John JACKSON) had her illegitimate son David Hardie STEWART (called after her brother-in-law!!) at Ladhope in the same year. Then these two JACKSON/STEWART and WHILLANS/GRIEVE couples end up next-door but one to each other in 1891.
Harry
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Harry
As always with this info, don't know how accurate it may be until checked. There is an Ancestral File on www.familysearch.org for the family of James Whillans and Agnes Jack, with the Whillans line for James back to....1688  As I said, not sure how accurate it may be 
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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hdw
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Thanks. It looks fairly plausible as far as these things go.
I mentioned before that in 1891 Wm. and Agnes WHILLANS had their niece and nephew Agnes and James WHILLANS living with them. They turn out to be the children of a Janet WHILLANS, who was obviously William's unmarried sister.
I omitted to mention that my 3 x great-grandfather Hugh STEPHENSON was married to a Jemima WHILLANS, and when she died in 1834 she was buried in Smailholm churchyard. She is a real puzzle, as there are no clues whatsoever as to her identity. A distant cousin of mine in the States is really keen to solve that one, as she is a descendant. Me, I'm descended from Hugh STEPHENSON and his previous girlfriend Alison MOFFAT in Melrose, but I'd still like to know who Jemima WHILLANS was.
Harry
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mitchec7
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I have recently been in email contact with Frank Whillans in Melbourne and foud this thread.
Can I make a suggestion about the OPR record for the family Andrew Whellans and Jane Paterson. They are registered in 1855, the year that registration became compulsory. Did famlies have to register previous births? Did Andrew or Jane register the 4 births Wilson, John, Andrew, Jean at the same time following some public notice?
It appears to me that the subsequent change to Whelans or Whilans for Andrew is the fault (no offence meant to any decedants) of the registar and the marriage of Andrew and Agnes Fox, where everyone hs one L and an idistiguishable Wh(e)(i).
I should declare my interest here, my mother-in-law is Elizabeth (Betty) Anderson Whellans born 1917, whose father was Andrew Douglas Whellans married Mary Halliburton Gourlay, son of Andrew Douglas Whellans married to Mary McLeod Broomfield, son of Andrew Whellans and Agnes Fox.
I realise that you have gone in various directions since the original postings but would be happy to share findings about these Andrews in particular.
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hdw
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What a coincidence that you should mention the name BROOMFIELD. Someone with that middle name figures in the post I made yesterday on the HUGGAN thread -
I've been reading in the sports pages of today's "Scotsman" about the young men of London Scottish rugby football team who were killed in WWI. One of them was a James L. HUGGAN, who was killed in France in 1914, aged 25. He had scored a try in the last Scotland v. England rugby international in Edinburgh.
I've checked Scotlandspeople, and he looks like James Laidlaw HUGGAN, born in 1888 at Allery(?), Jedburgh, to Robert HUGGAN, engineer & millwright, and his wife Isabella Broomfield LAIDLAW. This couple were married in 1880 at Duns, Berwickshire.
Harry
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