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Minksi
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Re: ROBERTS - Born in America??
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 18:16 UTC (UK) »

Sorry for the confusion.
Genty Small's mother and father were Laura Penfold and Leonard Small. Laura's father as far as I can see was Robert Penfold who was married to Pricilla.
Genty Small married William Manley whose parents were Powers Manley and Britannia Roberts.
William and Genty were my grandparents.
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Re: ROBERTS - Born in America??
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 19:32 UTC (UK) »

Thanks for that. Now I understand!!

I have William Manley (if he was born 1900 in Crewkerne) in my tree too, my partner's Grandmother was a Manley.

As for Leonard Small is he the son of James and Ellen, b 1880 in Honiton?
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Midlands:Bayliss, Clemo, Eburn, Evans, Finney, Mayo, Morris, Rhead, Shutt, Upton, Waterhouse, Woodward, Wright, Woolley, Wyatt, 
Devon: Gillard, Jenkins, Manfield, Morrish, Palk, Salter, Shire, Scorse, Summers, Wood,
Dorset:  Fudge, Roberts,Trowbridge,
Montgomeryshire: Evans
Norfolk: Bond, Everard, Riches,
Somerset:Clothier, Hockey, Jenkins, Shire
Ireland:Mihill, Woodward, Zumach
Scotland:Lewis
Travellers:Cooper, Davies, Hughes, Manley, Orchard, Penfold, Roberts, Small, Wells/Wills
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Re: ROBERTS - Born in America??
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 04:46 UTC (UK) »

Hi, I'm glad I got it down right that time. It's hard to write. Yes  my Grandad William was born in 1900 in Crewkerne.
Re Leonard Small, that's my next task. But I can't seem to find the birth of Laura Penfold or Laura and Leonard's marriage cert.
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Re: ROBERTS - Born in America??
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 07:47 UTC (UK) »

On the 1911 census Leonard Small said he was was born about 1882 in Axminster, Laura born 1886 in Brixham.  They said they had been married about 7 years so they would have been married around 1903-04.

There isn't anything on FreeBMD but maybe you could look at the PRs for some of their stopping places. That's how I have found some of mine.
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Midlands:Bayliss, Clemo, Eburn, Evans, Finney, Mayo, Morris, Rhead, Shutt, Upton, Waterhouse, Woodward, Wright, Woolley, Wyatt, 
Devon: Gillard, Jenkins, Manfield, Morrish, Palk, Salter, Shire, Scorse, Summers, Wood,
Dorset:  Fudge, Roberts,Trowbridge,
Montgomeryshire: Evans
Norfolk: Bond, Everard, Riches,
Somerset:Clothier, Hockey, Jenkins, Shire
Ireland:Mihill, Woodward, Zumach
Scotland:Lewis
Travellers:Cooper, Davies, Hughes, Manley, Orchard, Penfold, Roberts, Small, Wells/Wills
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Re: ROBERTS - Born in America??
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 09:21 UTC (UK) »

Laura Penfold was definatly the daughter of EDward and Racheal
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Re: ROBERTS - Born in America??
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 18:24 UTC (UK) »

thanks for that. I will look into it.
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Re: ROBERTS - Born in America??
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 18:59 UTC (UK) »

Hi Minksi, sorry for my last very short reply, I used to have time for longer posts and more of them but these days I barely get chance to get on a forum. My granny was the daughter of Joe Penfold and Trainette Roberts, she died young and he remarried his cousin Caroline Penfold who was the daughter of Ocean and Henry Penfold, Robert Penfold was another brother. My grand father on the other side was the son of Joe Orchard and Martha Roberts, she too died young and he remarried a woman who was penfold by birth but who had been married to a gorja. I know your family, but wont mention names here. If you need any info ask, I might be able to help but there are other sites like Romanygenes and Romanyjib who are brilliant at helping with tracing ancestors.
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Re: ROBERTS - Born in America??
« Reply #37 on: Friday 06 November 09 06:00 UTC (UK) »

Hi Trainette, what makes you so certain that Laura Penfold's parents were Edward and Rachael?
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Re: ROBERTS - Born in America??
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 14:49 UTC (UK) »

hi Minksi, its common knowledge, she was my grannies aunt so making her Joe Penfols sister, there were 22 children in that family. I dont know them all though.
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Re: ROBERTS - Born in America??
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 17:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi Trainette, I just think we are talking about 2 different Laura Penfolds
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Re: ROBERTS - Born in America??
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 21:02 UTC (UK) »

Hi Minksi, there might have been two Lauras but the one who married Lenard Small is the one I am talking about. They sometimes caled Laurel but  i think that was just the way travellers pronounced their words. You could ask Jimmy and Doris, they know a lot about family and especially some good old stories. 
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Re: ROBERTS - Born in America??
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 11 November 09 04:29 UTC (UK) »

Hi Trainette, I haven't spoken to Jimmy and Doris since I was about 9. It's a pity that I was never interested in this until after my mum's death and never asked any questions.  Cry
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