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Topic: William MARNANE married Mary BREEN (Read 738 times)
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fred2derf
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William MARNANE b. 20 Nov 1875 Kilmore d. 26 Apr 1948 Qld., Aust
- parents William MARNANME / MURNANE & Mary BREEN
I can't find the marriage of William's parents or when they arrived in Queensland. A sibling Bridget was born in Queensland in 1888. And a sibling Mathew was born I think in Clonmel in 1886. If that is St Mary's District then it should be Waterford??
Fred
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aghadowey
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To start with, IGI shows 6 children for William Murnane and Mary Breen: Michael (1867), Emy (1870), James (1872), Ellen (1874), William (1875), Thomas John (1879). See www.familysearch.org for details (the 6 births appear doing parent search).
Index to Irish civil registrations has the marriage listed:
William Murnane- marriage- 1867 Cashel registration district volume 3 page 568
Mary Breen- marriage- same as above.
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347
These details are enough to order the certificate.
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fred2derf
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Hello aghadowey,
Thank you very much for the marriage. The pilot site still won't load so I'm convinced it is being blocked somewhere, somehow. I'm trying to narrow down the period to search for the arrival of the family in Australia by confirming that there was a Mathew born in 1886 in Ireland. I don't have the date of Bridget's birth in 1888 in Queensland but I could get that.
Mary died in Queensland in 1928. I don't know if spouse William left Ireland or not.
1928 Marnane Mary - James Breen Ellen Taylor
It seems the event registrations for this family in Queensland are MARNANE although there is a larger number of MURNANE also in that state. Yet to be confirmed that the names are not mixed.
Regards,
Fred
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aghadowey
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Matthew MURNANE- birth- July/Sept 1886 Cashel registration district volume 3 page 345
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fred2derf
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Hello aghadowey,
Thank you very much for that record. I've checked deaths in Queensland up to 1929 and there are no MARNANE listed as being born in Ireland. For MURNANE there are two:
1893 Murnane John - Murnane - ** born Ireland aged 89 years
1925 Murnane William - Murnane - Julia Ryan ** born Ireland aged 73 years
What I really need to find is the shipping record for at least two families. It looks as though the first birth in Queensland was in 1881 and the first and only one for William & Mary (nee BREEN) in 1888. To 1929 I can't find a death or a marriage for Matthew.
Regards,
Fred
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enfield
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For what its worth;
MARNANE, PATRICK. Rank: Private. Regiment or Service: Connaught Rangers. Unit; 6th Bn. Age at Death: 20. Date of Death: 21-03-1918. Service No: 5763. Born in Tipperary and enlisted in Tipperary while living in Tipperary. Died. Supplementary information; Son of Jeremiah and Kate Marnane, of 31, O'Connell Rd, Tipperary. Grave or Memorial Reference: Has no known grave but is commemorated on Panel 77. Memorial: Pozieres Memorial in France.
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fred2derf
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Hello enfield,
Thank you for that bit. At the moment I don't know how he fits in. All I can guess is that I'm missing some children between Thomas John born 1879 and Matthew born 1886. With the Queensland on-line Death Index cutting off in 1929 it makes it rather difficult finding the deaths of the children. It could take several weeks before I can get someone to look up the fiche which go to 1964.
I'm not having much luck finding any on the shipping records. Only two so far:
MARNANE Michael 19 'Dacca' arrived 6 Jan 1890
There is a Michael buried in Toowong Cemetery in Queensland 1930 but his age is recorded as 59.
MARNANE William 29 'Rialto' arrived 1883 Sydney possibly the same as
Death 1925 Murnane William - Murnane - Julia Ryan ** born Ireland aged 73 years
but unless his age is out in both those records unlikely to be the William who married Mary BREEN in 1867.
There is a William buried in Toowing Cemetery in 1948 with age recorded as 62 and that does not fit either.
There is a Matthew buried in 1933 age recorded as 44 and that's not a good fit either being 5 years out but possibly the one born in Cashel. I'd have to see the death record on the fiche to confirn it lists his mother as Mary BREEN.
The only other one is Ellen buried in 1940 age recorded as 66.
Regards,
Fred
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enilorac
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Hi Fred,
My great Grandparents were William Murnane/Marnane and Mary Breen, from Red Hill, Qld.
Sorry I had been having problems logging on and so ask a cousin from my other side to send you a message. Her name is Fay.
There were 12 children born to William, and Mary, ......Michael 1867, Amy 1870, James 1872, Ellen 1874, William 1875, John 1877, Thomas 1877, Mary 1881, Patrick 1883, Catherine 1884, Matthew 1886, Bridget 1887, known as Delia and only one born in Aust.
Catherine was my GrandMother
Can help you with all, or most of your questions.
enilorac
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seanmac
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( by kind permission of Noel Farrell)
Found these in Tipperary Town roots 1901, (might not be related)
Bohercrow st (59)
Murnane Jeremiah & Catherine; John, Mary, Annie, Michael, Patrick
Clonmel rd (53)
Marnane Michael & Hannah; Ellen, William, Mary, Michael, Margaret.
Goat lane (30)
Marnane John & Mary; William, Lena, John, James, Bridget, Mary, Patrick,(gasworks worker)
Limerick rd (52)
Murnane William & Johanna; Mary, Thomas.
Main st (54)
Marnane William & Mary; Anne, Coman, (shopkeeper)
1911;
Clonmel rd (15)
Murnane Hanora.
(57)
Murnane Michael, William, Michael, Margaret.
Goat lane (27)
Murnane John & Mary; William, James, Bridget, Mary, Patrick, Michael, Norah.
(41)
Murnane James & Kate.
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fred2derf
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Hello enilorac,
Thanks for your reply. I received the PM from your cousin and I have sent you an email.
I was missing three children - Mary, Patrick & Catherine.
Regards,
Fred
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fred2derf
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Hello seanmac,
Thank you very much. At the moment I don't know if any are connected. I noticed some in Clonmel, a connection to my great grandfather who was born there - St Mary's District, Union of Clonmel, Co Waterford from his birth certificate.
Regards,
Fred
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