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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #15 on: Monday 09 February 09 19:50 UTC (UK) »

Take your time to sort it all out  Cheesy

George Clayton deserts Eliza and goes to live in Kent with a lady called Mary (see my reply number 3) He dies in Medway registration district in 1868.
Let me know if you want the 1871 census for Mary, showing Mary with 2 more children (who we can presume are your Ellen Eliza's half siblings)

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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #16 on: Monday 09 February 09 19:58 UTC (UK) »

Hi Tati
would appreciate seeing the 1871 census for Mary and suspected Ellen's half sisters.......

thanks again

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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #17 on: Monday 09 February 09 20:08 UTC (UK) »

Here you go  Smiley

1871
RG10/910 40 11
Chatham, Kent
4 Rhode Street

Mary Clayton, head, wid, 37, Needlewoman, b. Yorkshire Scarbourough
Harry, son, 15, Rivett Boy, b. Kent Chatham
John W, son, 12, scholar, b. do.
Rosa, dau, 10, scholar, b. do.
Elizabeth, dau, 8, scholar, b. do.
Agnes, dau, 6, scholar, b. do.
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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #18 on: Monday 09 February 09 20:51 UTC (UK) »

Tati

Interestingly I found a reference for a George Clayton marrying a Mary Ann Tidman, in Meridan dist in the Dec Qtr of 1860.

Info all fits my George. Either he remarried with out getting divorced or was divorced?

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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #19 on: Monday 09 February 09 21:06 UTC (UK) »

Hmm. Is Meriden in Warwickshire? It's not where we'd expect them, is it?
Unfortunately I can't see a matching Mary Ann Tidman born Scarborough on earlier censuses.

I doubt if he would have divorced anyway. Maybe he didn't bother marrying Mary at all? Hard to tell without getting a birth cert for one of their children ...  Undecided



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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 02:07 UTC (UK) »

Hi,  A little more info.  Here's Mary Clayton? and her children in 1881.  Mary now has a new! surname.

Living Southcoates, Hull, Yorkshire.

Mary Jethew (actually reads Gethen) 48 Scarboro
Harry Jethew 25 son
John Layton (reads Clayton) 22 son Chatham
Annie Layton 21 dau in law Hull
Agnes Layton 16 dau Chatham
Ellen Gathen 7 dau Hull
Terressa Gathen 5 dau Hull

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And in 1891, living in Hull.

Mary Gethen 58 widow
Agnes Clayton 25
Nellie (Ellen) Gethen 17
Theresa Gethen 15
Kate Hodgson 14 adopted dau? Hull
William Norton 10 adopted son? Hull

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And a marriage for Edward Gethen  3rd qrt 1873 Sculcoates Hull Yorks.  Vol 9d page 246.

On same page Mary CLAYTON

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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 17:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi 2ron2 -
just been having another look at this thread, as something caught my eye earlier!

You mention a visit to UK some 14 years ago and a visit to Leeds Castle.  I'm assuming you mean the castle associated with Ann Boleyn, which is set in the middle of a moat, with black swans etc!  If so then that has nothing to do with Leeds in Yorkshire, I'm afraid.  Leeds Castle is in Kent and is supposedly one of the most beautiful castles in the UK - as I lived near there for some years I would tend to agree.  Leeds in Yorkshire is a typical industrial city, although it may have a castle, and certainly has a great shopping centre, plus the Central Library where there is a magnificent display of glazed wall tiles throughout - I've really never seen anything like it before, it really is breathtaking and well worth a visit in it's own right.

But if George Clayton in the Medway towns is a relative, then perhaps Leeds Castle has a relevance, as it's just over the hill from Chatham and the Medway towns!!

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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 17:48 UTC (UK) »

BumbleB

Thanks for the update and clarification. It was in fact Leeds Castle, which you point out is in Kent. But Leeds, Yorkshire seems to be the seat of my ancestry. All the Darbyshires I have information on came from Leeds, Pontrefact, Huddersfield, Knaresborough, Church on Fenton etc......... it's a early link that's been the issue to date. But that's another post!

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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 18:47 UTC (UK) »

Hi:  It's just that so many people get the two Leeds mixed up, that I thought I'd better sort it out. 

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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 19:57 UTC (UK) »

This link should take you to Long West Gate Scarborough but I think the houses are much later than 1861.
If you scroll a little to the East the church would have been there and would have been used by your ancestors.

http://maps.live.com/#JndoZXJlMT1Mb25nd2VzdGdhdGUlMmMrU2NhcmJvcm91Z2grWU8xMSsxJmJiPTU0LjI5
NDYxMzc4ODgyNDklN2UtMC4zNzU5MTM3Mzg5NDM1MzIlN2U1NC4yNzUzMDAyMDA4OTQ3JTdlLTAuNDIwMD
E2OTAyODU3MDc1

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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 20:07 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Dave

It's interesting to at least see where they lived and the church may have burials! If I ever get back to England I have a number of places to "haunt"

thanks
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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 20:14 UTC (UK) »

I take it you're not interested in Mary Clayton?  Even though that's the name she used for her marriage after George died, which may indicate she, and George did marry.
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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 21:14 UTC (UK) »

Libby9

took down the info on Mary Clayton. Will try to follow any lines that pertain to husband George..... which appears to be a possible 3 children that would be half sisters/brothers to my ancestor Ellen Eliza Clayton.
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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 15 February 09 13:55 UTC (UK) »

libby9

Further to your info on children of George Clayton and Mary Tidman. I found a Agnes Clayton who appears on the 1871 census you sent me as 6 yrs old.

LDS site lists a Agnes Maud Mary Clayton, daughter of George Clayton and wife Mary, born 15 Oct 1864, dies 27 Nov 1864 in Chatham, Kent.

So, everything fits BUT can it be a typo? She can't die in 1864 and be on the 1871 census?

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Re: Lineage of Ellen Eliza Clayton 1853-1893 (Leeds)
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 15 February 09 14:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ron,

Looking closer at the record you found on the IGI (a member-submitted record by the way), 27 November is shown as the date of her christening, not her death.

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