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MARSKE (John Hearse)
« on: Monday 09 February 09 20:18 UTC (UK) »

I have a relative in 1901 Census living at Burton House (Marske High Street) a few doors away from the Miners Hospital. Is this the High street that runs down to the sea, or the High Street that runs through the town towards the station. And is the miners hosptal still standing as in 1901 it looks like a private residence?
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Re: MARSKE (John Hearse)
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 February 09 20:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi

The High Street starts near the Zetland pub, next to the railway station and runs down towards the Ship Inn, then the road continues around a sharpish bend towards the sea and the slipway, near where all the fisherman's boats are kept.  Ah many a happy childhood day spent on that beach.

There is a couple of books written about old Marske families, the first one is called Sand in my Shoes, author is a man called Charlton, the second one he wrote is called More Sand in my Shoes.

I am not sure, but I think the miner's hospital is where the hairdressers - Contemporary, is now situated.  If you ever go to Marske, you should visit the little museum on the hair street, called Winkie's Castle, originally started by Jack Anderson, the local cobbler, the stuff in there is unbelievable.

I grew up in Marske, and still only live a couple of miles away from it,

Jane
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Re: MARSKE (John Hearse)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 August 09 12:34 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jane

Sorry to but in but I saw your post about living in Marske and wondered if you could help me?

I have been puzzling about my 2xg grandmother Eliza Aubin and her siblings who were all born in Gedney, Lincolnshire but ended up in Marske. Eliza was living in Marske when she married Robert Moody of Northumberland, in Guisborough in 1876. It appears that some of Eliza's brothers moved up to Marske to be ironstone miners. I have found Timothy Aubin ironstone miner age 25 living at 148 Spout Wynd in 1881 and his brother Dring William marrying in Guisborough in 1873. My guess is he was a miner too.

I have been unable to trace either Timothy or Dring on the 1871 census  Cry (Eliza was in service in Wandsworth in 1871 working for a family whose head worked for the East India Co. I assume she maybe moved to Marske with the family as its a hack of a way from London!) In desperation  I thought I would start looking page by page at the 1871 census for Marske. However I can't see which district would cover Spout Wynd. So..
could you possibly give me any indication of where in the Marske area Spout Wynd was? And do you know if it existed in 1871?  Huh

Thanks in anticipation
Sue
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Re: MARSKE (John Hearse)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 02 August 09 11:03 UTC (UK) »

I have been unable to trace either Timothy or Dring on the 1871 census 
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Holbeach RG10/3329 Folio 9 Page 11

A Timothy Aubin, aged 15, from Gedney Drove End, is a Farm Labourer who is lodging in the household of a family called Hilton at Lutton Marsh.

Guisborough RG10/4851 Folio 10 Page 13

A William Auben, aged 23, from Lincolnshire, is an Ironstone Miner boarding in the household of a family called Marshall at Seymour Hill Terr, Lofthouse. This might be Dring using just his middle name ?

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Re: MARSKE (John Hearse)
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 02 August 09 12:15 UTC (UK) »

Thank you Posteria. Don't know why my ancestry search hadn't picked William up. There is no William Aubin in Wisbech births for c 1846/8 so I assume this William must be Dring William - perhaps he got fed up of people saying Dring's a strange name or the enumerator misheard! I must just have missed Timothy.

I would still be interested to hear about Spout Wynd if Jane sees this post.

Sue

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Re: MARSKE (John Hearse)
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 August 09 12:41 UTC (UK) »

I am sure that Jane will know all about it if she does return and read this topic but she has not been online since 11th July 2009.

In the meantime, it does appear on the 1871 census beginning at RG10/4852 Folio 33 Page 11 and it ends at page 18. It falls within Enumeration District 2 and it seems to be in the vicinity of High Street, Church Street and Spain Hill which all still appear on current street maps of Marske. Also on the current street map, in the same vicinity, is “The Wynd” and I wonder if this is the same place with a slight rename ?

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=463558&y=522366&z=110&sv=spain+hill&st=6&tl=Map+of+Spain+Hill,+Marske-By-The-Sea,+Redcar,+Cleveland,+TS11&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf

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Re: MARSKE (John Hearse)
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 02 August 09 18:54 UTC (UK) »

Thanks, I will have a 'look' around

Sue
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Re: MARSKE (John Hearse)
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 30 August 09 07:39 UTC (UK) »

Hi - sorry for not been around much lately, it's the boys cricket season Grin

The Wynd still exits in Marske, it is the main square where most of the shops are located, it is set adjacent to the main High Street, which runs from the Ship Inn to the The Zetland Pub, near the railway station. 

The High Street has many little streets of it, which were the main places of residdence and still to this today, but Marske has grown much bigger.

I will have a look at the census for you for 1871 and if necessary I can have a ramble around the graveyard, which has been closed for some time


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Re: MARSKE (John Hearse)
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 30 August 09 09:26 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jane, my other half has been glued to the Ashes!

I would be grateful for any info you might come up with. As I mentioned before I guess they all moved from Lincolnshire to Marske for work so I'm trying to picture how different life would have been for them, and also to find other siblings. I guess some may be buried in Marske.

Incidentally on the way back from a relly hunting trip to Berwick last year we called at Guisborough as my g g grandparents were married in the Register Office there in 1872. Sadly the RO now is what looks like a 60s style building so I was disappointed but it was great to walk down the main street and imagine them doing the same!
Thanks again for your help.
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Re: MARSKE (John Hearse)
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 30 August 09 10:11 UTC (UK) »

Hello,
I found this thread whilst looking for a family in Marske in Guisborough and wonder if you can tell me where Dale Street, Marske is?  The husband John Weaver was an iron stone miner in 1871 and possibly in the Royal Navy in 1861.  He was still there in 1881.
Sorry to butt in,
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Re: MARSKE (John Hearse)
« Reply #10 on: Friday 11 September 09 09:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi Abiam

Dale Street is in New Marske which is just southwest of Marske

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Re: MARSKE (John Hearse)
« Reply #11 on: Friday 11 September 09 20:46 UTC (UK) »

Hello,  Smiley

I had a relative Who was born in a house at Spout Wynd.

That particular house was where the current parade of shops is at the seaward side of The Wynd (as current). Around about where Atha Strong is.

The visible remains of Spout Wynd (The Street) is the old parade of shops on the landward side of The Wynd (Myriam's side) It then curved towards the sea, into where the car park is and alongside the beck.

The Wynd was built over the top of this. The present road from the roundabout towards the Frigate Pub- Vickerage drive did not exist in the form it is now.

Spout Wynd - the beck (or stream) runs (or ran) from the railway bridge parallel to the upper High Street, down through the playing fields. Then across the car park and down Spain Hill. Down the Valley Gardens  (behind the Tithe Barn- or Granary) and onto the beach.



The Hospital (Miners Hospital - perhaps) was around where Jane says.

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"New" Road in red.

I have included the approx location of the Hospital.

George



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Re: MARSKE (John Hearse)
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 12 September 09 17:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi

OK the cricket is finished but the football league starts tomorrow Roll Eyes

George is spot on with his map,  Grin  the old miner's hospital is now where Contemporary, the hairdresser's stands, as a child this was Frankie Dee's supermarket, many a time as a child I had to go and help carry the shopping Grin

I can remember reading a book, written by a local man, name of Charlton, a name that still goes strong in Marske, I am sure it was called Sand in my Shoes, it was a great tale of a boy growing up in Marske, playing on Blue Mountain, being chased by the local bobby!!  He followed it up by the sequel called More Sand in my Shoes.

If you have a look on line for Winkie's Castle, this is a very small museum, which was originally started by Jack Anderson, the local cobbler, he cobbled all our shoes for years, we had to drop them on a Friday after school, and then we picked them up on a Saturday morning which made us suitably shod for school on a Monday. Grin Grin Grin

As I say, I am nearly free  Cool and hope to be getting back into my family tree, you never know I may even get a night off.

Jane Cheesy


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Re: MARSKE (John Hearse)
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 12 September 09 18:11 UTC (UK) »

Frankie Dee!  Grin Grin

The first person to make a stand on Sunday opening at his Saltburn premises.

He was taken to court a few times, before the council caved in, opening the door for Sunday trading.  Smiley

When I moved to Marske the premises were still Frankie Dee's, but soon changed to Bell's???

Blue mountain - some photos on the net of the chalets on there.

Jack Anderson- lovely man, first class cobbler as well.

Is it his son who has the cobbler shop now, or has that gone.

Last time I returned to Marske, about 4 year ago, I was dismayed at the general condition of the place.  Sad

Maybe one doesn't notice when you live there, the gradual downward conditions.

The smell from ICI (Nitrous oxides I presume.) hit me at Thirsk on the A19.

I vaguely remember them developing the Wynd area, as a child (infant)

Before you start  Roll Eyes I have a very good long term (photographic) memory.  Grin Grin
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Re: MARSKE (John Hearse)
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 12 September 09 18:32 UTC (UK) »

Lol some memories tonight  Grin  do you remember the fountain that was in the village square, square and gardens still there but fountains long gone,  Sad
Round the corner was the Candy Box, oh I loved that shop, think it was owned by the Jarvis family Huh

Bells moved over the road to where Hintons used to be, it's now Sainsbury's at Bells.

Marske in some parts is a bit run down, but they are trying, i will say, toilets all revamped, flowers all over the square, beautiful to see. 


Oh it's good to be back

Jane

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