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K Rees
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William Day Lithographer London
« on: Tuesday 10 February 09 09:00 UTC (UK) »

Seeking some assistance to find information on William Day (1797- 1845) and Son William (b. c1824), who were lithographers in London. In 1851 the son William Day is suppose to be 17 Gate Street, Lincoln's Inn Field. I have the Census but can't find their household. He may have an uncle John Bellini Day, a publisher of London.

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Keith
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Re: William Day Lithographer London
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 14:30 UTC (UK) »

Is this a possible for William Jnr. in 1851?  Not in Lincoln's Inn Field, but he is the right age and a printer.

19, Lorraine Place, Islington

William Day head     M  27 Copper plate &c printer         London
Elizabeth Day wife   M 24                                           Gloucester
William J Day   son       2                                            London
John R Nicholls B-i-L M  38 Annuitant                         London
James R Day     son        1                                          London
Caroline A Nicholls sister M 30 Annuitant                      London

Class: HO107/ Piece: 1500/ Folio: 793/ Page: 19


Can't find a John Bellini Day, but in 1854 a John BELLENCE Day married a Rose Isabel Rees.

In 1861 Isabel Rose Day shows up in Claines, Worcestershire:

Henry Lewis Elton head M 29 Land holder                 Bath
Rose Mary Elton wife      M 23 wife of " "                    Somerset, Frome
Isabel Rose Day visitor   M 27 wife of Lithographer  Bruenes Ayres(sic)
                                                                                 S America         
Wm. John Sidney Day  Visitor  5                                     Middx, Holloway

Class: RG9/ Piece: 2109/ Folio: 40/ Page: 30

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Re: William Day Lithographer London
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 10 February 09 22:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi Galium,

My sincere thanks.

Both answers are that correct people.

Once again, much appreciated.

Keith
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Re: William Day Lithographer London
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 February 09 19:19 UTC (UK) »

Hi Galium

Are you interested in find an apprenticeship record or something for him? I also have London printer ancestors.

Ben
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Re: William Day Lithographer London
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 February 09 22:04 UTC (UK) »

Hi Ben,

I am interested in any details of William Day of London (1795 - 1845) the lithographer; William Day, his son also a lithographer agent; and I "believe" John Bellini Day, the publisher, will be his brother.

Galium - the Caroline A Nicholls you provided yesterday will be a daughter of William Day Senior, and I found her in 1881 Census staying with Dr. W.G.Grace and Agnes Nicholls Grace, nee Day, her niece. The wife of William Day Junior is Elizabeth Rees. The wife of John B. Day is Isobel Rees.

These families are connected with my Rees family of Haverforwest, Wales.
Regards,
Keith Rees Aus
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Re: William Day Lithographer London
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 February 09 23:15 UTC (UK) »

Hi,
William Jr appeared to go bankrupt in 1866: http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/issues/23170/pages/5354 (column two)

There are several other references to him, giving his various London addresses, elsewhere in the Gazette: http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/search 

Good luck
Rob
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Re: William Day Lithographer London
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 February 09 11:38 UTC (UK) »

I found her in 1881 Census staying with Dr. W.G.Grace and Agnes Nicholls Grace, nee Day, her niece.
Keith Rees Aus

The W G  Grace?  How wonderful!

Are you sure that John B Day is William Snr.'s brother?  He seems to be more of a contemporary Of William Jnr ?

Found a marriage announcement for John and Isabel:

The Times Monday Jan 24 1854:

On the 3rd inst. at St John's Church, Holloway, by the Rev. __ Parnther.  John Bellinie Day Esq., of Gate street, Lincoln's-inn, to Isabel Rose, youngest daughter of the late William Lee Rees, R. N.
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Re: William Day Lithographer London
« Reply #7 on: Friday 13 February 09 03:26 UTC (UK) »

Thank you Galium for the marriage entry - yes,  son of the William Day Senior. (1797 - 1845)
This would make William Day m. Elizabeth Rees; John Bellini Day m. Isabel Rose Rees and Caroline A. Day m. John R. Nicholls brothers and sisters, and chn of William Day Senior.
The two Rees girls are first cousins. Isabel Rose Rees is from Lt. William Lee Rees and Mary Pocock; and Elizabeth Rees is from Dr. James Lee Rees and Elizabeth Pocock. The two Pococks are sisters. To make it worse the Rees boys' sister Mary Rees form Haverfordwest, m. the Pocock girl's brother George Pocock, Junior.

Yes, the cricket Grace family married into these families as well.
Once again Galium, thank you for your interest and support.

To Robert - I will now look up your references. Thank you.

Keith Rees
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Re: William Day Lithographer London
« Reply #8 on: Friday 13 February 09 03:43 UTC (UK) »

Thank you Rob.

It seems that William Day didn't seem stay bankrupt too long as by 1881, he is living Edgcliffe Gardens, Kensington with a household of about 17 or 18., as a lithographer agent.

Thank you for the news article.

Keith
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Re: William Day Lithographer London
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 04 April 09 21:29 UTC (UK) »

I am interested in the Day family as my mother-in-law was a Day (and W.G. Grace's niece!), but I have not, so far, been able to find the parents of the first William Day (1797-1845). Can anybody help?

I do have some information on Caroline Bellini (William's wife) and her family and am more than willing to share that.

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Re: William Day Lithographer London
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 04 April 09 23:06 UTC (UK) »

Hi JHS

I have not looked for Wm. Day's parents, but I certainly can help you with the descendants of two of his chn William and John Bellini Day.

I have sent a you a personal message.

Keith Australia.
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Re: William Day Lithographer London
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 05 April 09 03:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Keith

I am not able to send personal messages until I have posted another message but thank you for your reply. The complexities of the Rees, Pocock and Day relationships make study of these families a fascinating, but at times frustrating, exercise. This, however, only helps to make each discovery, even if it is relatively unimportant, something of great moment.

I have managed to acquire a great deal of information on the Days, starting with William (1797-1845), but I have nothing earlier than him. My work on the Pococks is less complete but I am attempting to find a link between George Pocock, the schoolmaster and inventor of Bristol and Nicholas Pocock, the painter, and so back to the Pococks of Berkshire. The Reeses I traced back to Wales but no further.

As it appears as if we have a number of mutual interests I hope we will be able to work together so that we both can achieve our goals.

Cheers

John, New Zealand.
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Re: William Day Lithographer London
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 05 April 09 04:07 UTC (UK) »

John,

You should be able to use my email address that I forwarded to you.

Have you got a lot of information from the Chris Sheahan's site?

Do you know of the Rees Family History book of 1991?

I have just made contact with 3 new contacts in Eng not previously known to us.

Looking forward to see your second name to see if I have it already listed.

Keith
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Re: William Day Lithographer London
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 05 April 09 22:23 UTC (UK) »

Keith

Thanks for your message. I think we have been in touch before when I was hunting the Rees connection. I have extracts from the Rees history book given to me by Rees descendants in New Zealand.

As far as I can recall I have not seen the Chris Sheahan web site, but then I have only recently found out what a powerful tool we have in the internet.

Cheers

John Scott
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Re: William Day Lithographer London
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 05 April 09 22:59 UTC (UK) »

Hi John,

Yes, you are on the computer; however, thanks to groups like RootsChat, a lot more information has been uncovered and is developing.

As soon as you can contact me directly, please do so, and I will fill you in.

Plus,  I would welcome an extra hand. For example, I did not know that William Day's wife was Bellini.

Regards,

Keith
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